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Friday, October 22, 2010

It is inaccurate to claim that the Mother considered Nirodbaran and Amal Kiran to be morons

From aurosatya vrata to "Tusar N. Mohapatra" tusarnmohapatra@gmail.com date 21 October 2010 17:38 subject Reg. Mr. Sunil SR's message on SEOF dt. October 21 2010
Dear Mr. Mohapatra,
Best Greetings after a long pause. May I please request you to post my message on your blog site in response to Mr. Sunil SR's message. Please also remove my e-mail address while posting, as is the practice currently.

Dear Mr. Sunil SR,
As someone who has taken part in some of the discussions that took place on the Savitri Era Open Forum (SEOF) earlier this year during the months of March - May '10, I would like to bring to your attention that there is nothing original or new that you are presenting to the readers of the SEOF.

I do not know if you are a newcomer to the SEOF or if you are posing as someone else who is merely reappearing on this blog site every time there is a controversy that needs to be stirred up, but we are already all too familiar with the stale stories that you are presenting here.

Not only are your stories and information stale, but we have already discussed, demonstrated and established that much of the allegations that you are exposing here are totally inaccurate and unsubstantiated. And more importantly they appear to be motivated misrepresentations of facts and lies.

In particular, what is objectionable is the fact that you are misusing the Mother's words to insult respectable people such as Dr. Nirodbaran and Mr. K.D. Sethna (Amal Kiran) who were among the few disciples that were close to Sri Aurobindo. 

Several people have already contributed and presented sufficient material on this blog site to clearly establish that it is not only inappropriate, but that it is inaccurate to claim that the Mother considered Dr. Nirodbaran and Mr. K.D. Sethna to be morons. 

If you think that they were morons, just say so, but do not misuse the Mother's words or put your words in Her mouth to try and prove your petty points.

In case you are not convinced of my observations, I earnestly invite you to request Mr. Tusar Mohapatra, the owner and moderator of this blog site to direct you to the SEOF archives (hoping that the word "archives" doesn't intimidate you) so that you may review the discussion that took place earlier this year, during March - May '10.

I would also request you to avoid getting into any lengthy and repetitive arguments until you have studied that archived material. And if you do get back, I hope that you will agree that it will be more meaningful if you stick to specifics and substantiate your claims and allegations with something more concrete and convincing that merely presenting your opinions. Regards, S.

20 comments:

  1. So many words to say nothing. Has the Mother called them Morons or not? A simple yes or no will do.

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  2. ".......Has the Mother called them Morons or not? A simple yes or no will do......."

    It is a NO

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  3. Thank you very much for the straightforward answers. I mean it.

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  4. Volume 4 13 March 1963
    Unfortunately, there were two morons here who fancied correcting him – while he was alive! (A. especially, he's a poet.) Hence all those Letters on Poetry Sri Aurobindo wrote.

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  5. Looks like the "Mother" is not above and beyond saying contradictory things about people behind their backs!

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  6. "Looks like the "Mother" is not above and beyond saying contradictory things about people behind their backs!"

    This is a dispute between two groups of people and they are both followers of Sri Aurobindo. Based on your comment, you, my dear, are a Raghu! That is another term for a despicable Trojan horse! YOU should stay out of this debate because you belong to neither group and no one wants you. So, off with you!

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  7. And who the hell are you? A self-appointed spokesperson for the two groups, or worse, for Aurobindo? You are an ignorant wannabe cult leader who thinks he can dictate who can participate and on what terms! Go join the "Moonies" if you want a career in cults!

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  8. This "anonymous", the one who constantly berates and goes into hysterical outbursts against "Drraghu", with quarter-baked convoluted ideas and a talent for pseudo-analysis filled with name-calling, sounds like a pompous member of the "pseudo-intellectual wing" of the RSS than anything else. Had he lived in Germany under Hitler, he would have been an ideal member of "Team Goebbels" in the Nazi Ministry of Propaganda, and the curious admixture in his personality of the pseudo-ideologue and party henchman would have served him well.

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  9. To the anonymous person who promptly posted the message and quotation:

    “Volume 4 13 March 1963
    Unfortunately, there were two morons here who fancied correcting him – while he was alive! (A. especially, he's a poet.) Hence all those Letters on Poetry Sri Aurobindo wrote.”

    Please do your homework before jumping to conclusions, especially when it concerns the (mis)use of The Mother’s words to insult and denigrate somebody else, particularly respectable people who have served close and next to both The Mother and Sri Aurobindo for decades and who were equally respected and trusted by their gurus.

    If you are interested AND capable of doing a little more research and going a little deeper than just stopping at the surface and encouraging motivated rumours that people like yourself have been propagating, you will find that there are no grounds to assume and allege that The Mother and Sri Aurobindo considered Dr. Nirodbaran and Mr. K.D. Sethna to be morons.

    To help you educate yourself a little more and behave a little more respectably, I could direct you to a wonderful and thorough piece of research work written by a lady with a French name “Francoise ….” (if I remember well) and which was posted on this blog site. This piece should be available in the archives of this blog site and according to the e-mail records in my mailbox her piece was posted during the early half of the month of April 2010.

    I earnestly hope that your research will be as prompt as the conclusions that you have jumped to.

    Regards,
    S.

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  10. "Had he lived in Germany under Hitler, he would have been an ideal member of "Team Goebbels" in the Nazi Ministry of Propaganda,"

    You seem to know a lot about Hitler and the RSS. Any relation to our friend Koantum Mohrhoff?

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  11. "You are an ignorant wannabe cult leader who thinks he can dictate who can participate and on what terms! "

    And you, you again poke your nose where you dont belong! :)

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  12. Anonymous said:
    "And you, you again poke your nose where you dont belong! :)"

    And who are you to decide and dictate whose nose belongs where??? Looks like your nose is longer than everybody else's!!!

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  13. "And who are you to decide and dictate whose nose belongs where??? Looks like your nose is longer than everybody else's!!!"

    Like I said you are not welcome - neither group wants a Trojan horse! So, go back to your teaching or whatever it is that you do.

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  14. And is there anything worthwhile you can go back to? I doubt it!

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  15. Considering how much you want to be Trojan horse, you obviously have no teaching to do either!

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  16. You and your paranoia about "Trojan horse"!

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  17. You and your paranoia about "Trojan horse"!

    Trojan horses can be insidious....

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  18. ...in just the way what you see in a mirror appears insidious!

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  19. Still no teaching duties?

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