Re: Re: Re: Re: Post Human Variations ('Imaginary' vs. 'Imaginal') Debashish Tue 30 Jan 2007 06:51 AM PST
If we look at this other aspect of technology in its extensions of the "human life" - averting catastrophes and illnesses and extending longevity - this may be more promising, along with its considerable and maybe fatal dangers (which again have no cures except through an organization and developoment of consciousness free of technological conditioning). Leaving aside for the moment the issue of capitalism, life-enhancing effects of technology may play their part in preparing consciousness for a future of consciousness, if the subjetive life can develop some importance in the idealisms of the human race. DB Re: Re: Towards Globalisation RY Deshpande Tue 30 Jan 2007 06:49 AM PST
Hi Ron I did read your earlier comment in the context of discussion about Post Human Variations. Let me first say here that my present essay is regarding societal organisation, on a collective level, for an acceptable foundation for the higher powers to enter into the scheme of things. Our present system is based on fragmented aspects of Wisdom-Strength-Harmony-Perfection and this has to be first corrected. This is what Rich was referring to in one of his recent postings when he also referred to me. (We had a fruitful talk about it when he visited me about two weeks ago and we thought it worthwhile pursuing some of these themes in a systematic manner. In fact, as a beginning towards it, it is that which prompted me to post this article on globalisation.) We have the following passage in The Mother and that must be the basis for any truer progress in the opening of the ways of Infinity:...Only when these four are founded can the higher powers come into play in the evolutionary process. The platform from which we have to collective address the issue is the social platform, which is different from the luminous golden occult cave wherein dwells the individual, the cave where some kind of spiritual nanotechnology could be worked out, kind of Aurobindonian alchemist’s pursuit picked up. But this discussion could be for another occasion, preferably independent of other cluttering things. RYD Re: Re: Re: Re: Post Human Variations ('Imaginary' vs. 'Imaginal') Debashish Tue 30 Jan 2007 06:36 AM PST
Ron, Immersion experiences mediated by nano-tech do not guarantee either an universal receptivity or an universalized individual response. Prakritic instrumentation, however subtle it may plunge its injectors and deliver its messages/massages do not make non-dual experiences more avaliable to us imo, without a corresponding preparation of the subjective life. Immersion experiences may more effectively condition a generalized individuality but this is not the awakening of the purusha's will. On the other hand, without the awakening of the purusha, the effects of "hot" media such as nano-tech mediated immersions could be unpredictable, as for example, the uses made of Beethoven music by the Third Reich or its future decentralized exultations of violence in A Clockwork Orange. Savitri, recited by the Mother, has already become an item in a "globalized" fetish-cult which substitutes simulacra for individual responsibility or consciousness. Moreover, a point I was making is that globalized technology comes with its own strings attached - strings which dictate how we condition our consciousness to interface with it. More primary than a nano-tech mediated globalization is I believe the imperative of distancing ourselves from conditioning devices as intentional communities committed to a flowering of the subjective life. Such a habitus can then determine its own selective assimilations of technology governed by a premediatated alternate destiny. Immersion experiences could then be specific individual or collective choices thst serve the reception of awakened wills in a "cool" interactive life-manifold. In such a scenario, nano-tech may play a part and then it may not. DB
If we look at this other aspect of technology in its extensions of the "human life" - averting catastrophes and illnesses and extending longevity - this may be more promising, along with its considerable and maybe fatal dangers (which again have no cures except through an organization and developoment of consciousness free of technological conditioning). Leaving aside for the moment the issue of capitalism, life-enhancing effects of technology may play their part in preparing consciousness for a future of consciousness, if the subjetive life can develop some importance in the idealisms of the human race. DB Re: Re: Towards Globalisation RY Deshpande Tue 30 Jan 2007 06:49 AM PST
Hi Ron I did read your earlier comment in the context of discussion about Post Human Variations. Let me first say here that my present essay is regarding societal organisation, on a collective level, for an acceptable foundation for the higher powers to enter into the scheme of things. Our present system is based on fragmented aspects of Wisdom-Strength-Harmony-Perfection and this has to be first corrected. This is what Rich was referring to in one of his recent postings when he also referred to me. (We had a fruitful talk about it when he visited me about two weeks ago and we thought it worthwhile pursuing some of these themes in a systematic manner. In fact, as a beginning towards it, it is that which prompted me to post this article on globalisation.) We have the following passage in The Mother and that must be the basis for any truer progress in the opening of the ways of Infinity:...Only when these four are founded can the higher powers come into play in the evolutionary process. The platform from which we have to collective address the issue is the social platform, which is different from the luminous golden occult cave wherein dwells the individual, the cave where some kind of spiritual nanotechnology could be worked out, kind of Aurobindonian alchemist’s pursuit picked up. But this discussion could be for another occasion, preferably independent of other cluttering things. RYD Re: Re: Re: Re: Post Human Variations ('Imaginary' vs. 'Imaginal') Debashish Tue 30 Jan 2007 06:36 AM PST
Ron, Immersion experiences mediated by nano-tech do not guarantee either an universal receptivity or an universalized individual response. Prakritic instrumentation, however subtle it may plunge its injectors and deliver its messages/massages do not make non-dual experiences more avaliable to us imo, without a corresponding preparation of the subjective life. Immersion experiences may more effectively condition a generalized individuality but this is not the awakening of the purusha's will. On the other hand, without the awakening of the purusha, the effects of "hot" media such as nano-tech mediated immersions could be unpredictable, as for example, the uses made of Beethoven music by the Third Reich or its future decentralized exultations of violence in A Clockwork Orange. Savitri, recited by the Mother, has already become an item in a "globalized" fetish-cult which substitutes simulacra for individual responsibility or consciousness. Moreover, a point I was making is that globalized technology comes with its own strings attached - strings which dictate how we condition our consciousness to interface with it. More primary than a nano-tech mediated globalization is I believe the imperative of distancing ourselves from conditioning devices as intentional communities committed to a flowering of the subjective life. Such a habitus can then determine its own selective assimilations of technology governed by a premediatated alternate destiny. Immersion experiences could then be specific individual or collective choices thst serve the reception of awakened wills in a "cool" interactive life-manifold. In such a scenario, nano-tech may play a part and then it may not. DB
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