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by Rod in reply to philippe Last Updated: May 15, 2011
Phillipe - This is Rod responding on Robert's computer, for technical reasons.
I see what you are talking about, and am aware of the occult point of view or explanation of things. But I prefer the philosophical approach, for a couple of reasons.
If there are dogs at the gate, which I agree that there are, and asuras using people for their hostile purposes, which there are, we still have to deal with the humans. Even if we have realized, and not only noticed, both the darkness and the light, and are relatively liberated, the manifestations are still there. So what do we achieve with this kind of interpretation? The dogs have to be removed, the falsehoods exposed, and the social sphere engaged through educational, political, spiritual and other means.
The other reason is that it can happen that people begin to imagine that their role as representatives of the dark forces and the light forces are destined and they assume that this is hat they are supposed to be doing; they justify and intensify their behaviors instead of changing them. One of the results of this pattern, which can be seen in Auroville, is a kind of mass paranoid psychosis. Instead of addressing the behaviors of people in a direct and rational way, people are overcome by their fears and their righteous delusions, etc.
I prefer using Occam's razor, if possible. The law of parsimony was effectively used to combat religious obscurantism during his time as well.
I see what you are talking about, and am aware of the occult point of view or explanation of things. But I prefer the philosophical approach, for a couple of reasons.
If there are dogs at the gate, which I agree that there are, and asuras using people for their hostile purposes, which there are, we still have to deal with the humans. Even if we have realized, and not only noticed, both the darkness and the light, and are relatively liberated, the manifestations are still there. So what do we achieve with this kind of interpretation? The dogs have to be removed, the falsehoods exposed, and the social sphere engaged through educational, political, spiritual and other means.
The other reason is that it can happen that people begin to imagine that their role as representatives of the dark forces and the light forces are destined and they assume that this is hat they are supposed to be doing; they justify and intensify their behaviors instead of changing them. One of the results of this pattern, which can be seen in Auroville, is a kind of mass paranoid psychosis. Instead of addressing the behaviors of people in a direct and rational way, people are overcome by their fears and their righteous delusions, etc.
I prefer using Occam's razor, if possible. The law of parsimony was effectively used to combat religious obscurantism during his time as well.
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Good points, Rod.
Yes, it is important while ‘trying to be spiritual’ to remain also human and rational at the same time not changing too soon into ‘spiritual’. If rationality is removed too soon before it has completed its painful transformational work, the dogmatic approach may take over and spoil our attempt to become spiritual by dragging us back to a dogmatism and religious obscurantism. And we know very well by experience what it means. And since our aim is an integral realization, which includes matter and physical life, we must remain both spiritual and rational, allowing a new way of being to emerge.
This implies to be critical, but, again, not overcritical.
I can spend a little time to help educate here on the true nature of yoga. Here is my definition (I am writing a book on it): "Yoga is a psycho-political ideology designed and perfected by the great Hindu sages of the past to rob you off of your intellect. Once you have been robbed off of your intellect, it has psychological, psychiatric, and political consequences potentially leading you to commit suicide."
I shall wait for your response. GB Singh
I shall wait for your response. GB Singh
Posted - Thu May 19, 2011 2:17 am
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