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Thursday, February 21, 2008

Reformation slaughter and Jihadist horror

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Marx, who condemned exploitation, was himself, the...":

The title of this book is typical of the hypocritical double-minded horse pooh that those on the "right" use in the USA culture wars. And of the false straw-man arguments that they specialise in. The politics of binary exclusions which WILL sooner or later lead to the vicious applied politics of mass scape-goating---in an INEVITABLE attempt to cleanse or purge the USA body politic of the various leftist/humanistic/atheist/relativist cancers. And everything will be hunky-dory again and "christ" will rule for a thousand years---the thousand year REICH again. But we wont even mention the hugely enormous elephant in the room shall we!

Eisenhower's (Pentagon) military-industrial-entertainment complex---the REAL "culture" of death piped into everyones "living" rooms by the corporations that support the so called "discovery" institute---which is itself closely affiliated with the right wing think tanks which again are VERY LOUD cheer-leaders for the Pentagon death machine.

And brought to the entire planet via the over 700 known overseas military bases, or the over 6000 military bases in the USA, or the fact that "christian" America is by far the largest maker, seller, and USER of weapons of all kinds including WMD's. There has been an enormously huge increase in the total war-making budget since Sept 11. The current budget is the biggest ever, by a country mile.

Plus we wont mention the fact that the all pervasive "culture" of guns promoted by the NRA is in one way or another promoted and supported by these same right wing think tanks with which these two dudes have "intimate" (sic) connections. And they wonder why crazies masacre people on a regular basis. Everyone in the USA lives and breathes the "culture" of violence.

And if you want to check out an earlier period in the history of "christian" Europe when the "culture" of death REALLY DID RULE, check out the details of the seemingly never-ending slaughters during the protestant vs catholic wars after and during the "reformation". And how both catholics and protestants slaughtered the Anabaptists like vermin---with the specific instructions and encouragement of both the catholic and protestant ecclesiastical "authorities".

Much of Europe was thus devastated. And what about the witch burnings which were all done by righteous christian true believers. And lets remember that "christian" Europe gave us World War I and II. Europe was still very much a Christian civilization at the time. Posted by Anonymous to Feel Philosophy at 1:02 PM, February 21, 2008

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You know these righteous phoneys ought to thoroughly examine the rotten history of their church before making any claims to "righteousness". If anyone bothers to read their history books they will find that the "catholic" church (in particular) stinks or is rotten to the core, and always has been. Which is of course one of the reasons why the Reformation was inevitable, together with the appearance of widely distributed Bibles so that large numbers of ordinary people could see that they were being lied too, conned, and screwed (to death) by the catholic church.

A good place to start would be to Google A Criminal History of the Papacy which shows how rotten the papacy has always been. So much for the "vicar of christ", or "holy apostolic succession", or priests being the "icons of christ". Posted by Anonymous to Feel Philosophy at 4:31 PM, February 21, 2008

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Meanwhile how many catholic priests, the presumed "icons of christ" (to quote a well known catholic intellectual), have been convicted of paedophilia and other crimes, including systematic sadistic violence, against minors?

And how often have the relevant ecclesiastical authorities known about the same and either ignored it or covered it up. And what about the catholic priests who "baptised" the African slaves, to bring them to "christ" as they were herded like cattle on to the slave ships. And what about the active involvement of christians in all of that too---very good for business what.

How many millions of living, breathing, feeling, human beings (mothers, fathers, children, uncles, aunts) were thus victims of the systematic "culture" of death that was part and parcel of the "culture" of christian Europe at the time. Posted by Anonymous to Savitri Era Open Forum at 1:31 PM, February 21, 2008

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Anyone like Johnson who considers either Thatcher and Reagan as "heroes" is suffering from a serious spiritual, moral, cultural, and intellectual deficiency/bankruptcy. And didnt the said pope make a saint out of someone who openly declared his admiration for Hitler? Posted by Anonymous to Savitri Era Open Forum at 1:38 PM, February 21, 2008

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Blackadder Says: February 21, 2008 at 4:10 am As for God suffering and dying, I agree that there is a paradox here, but I think it is a paradox fundamental to Christian doctrine, rather than a proof that the word “God” functions as a name. Still you’ve given me something to think about.

Matt McDonald Says: February 21, 2008 at 4:17 am ps. I don’t think it’s “pretty obvious” we worship the same God considering Jihadist element which has caused such horror from inception. Such a conclusion really requires a deeper theological distinction.

Blackadder Says: February 21, 2008 at 4:17 am To say that Muslims adore the one God is not quite the same as saying that they worship the same God as Christians do, though of course I would agree (as detailed in my post) that there are some senses in which Muslims and Christians do, in fact, worship the same God.

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