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Tuesday 12 February 2008
The blackout on his last days appears designed to encourage further Indian-style delusions about "the man and his message"
m alan kazlev has left a new comment on your post "Is there anyone living on the planet earth who has...": hi Tusar
no need to feel disappointed. I am not abandoning Sri Aurobindo and the Mother's teachings so your analogy does not hold. But for me self realisation is a prerequisate for Integral Yoga. Others will have different prerequisites. Why should everyone follow the same path? To reply to your three questions:
What is Self-Relisation? I use Ramana's definition
Who said all ashrams teach the same thing?
Can't answer the last question, it doesn't feel relevent to me Posted by m alan kazlev to Savitri Era at 1:06 PM, February 08, 2008
Satpraxis has left a new comment on your post "Satprem respected the hundreds of sincere Ashramit...":
Cultish adulations and denials are incompatible with the searing and soaring sense of truth required on the spiritual path. Why don't you address specific issues and questions raised by Luc Venet, instead of wallowing in shrill and spite-filled rhetoric in defense of the dead man who wrote eloquently about "Life Without death"? For example, address Satprem's paranoia about "adverse forces". Usually, a person subject to this sort of paranoia views only other people, especially those who disagree with one's illusions and delusions, as victims of "adverse forces" and never considers the possibility that he or she might be the actual victim of the "adverse forces" in entertaining suspicions about others. Address the issue of Satprem's paranoia about Luc Venet's alleged pilfering with his (no-doubt historically indispensable?) letters. Luc has raised a very good question: why should I steal any letters in the original when I could just photocopy them? If Satprem did not have the Viveka or Buddhi to see this, then he needed "help" big time! Address the issue of why Patrice committed suicide and why Satprem kept quiet. Surely, the man who waxed eloquent about the new species and this and that coud have expressed some feelings and given an explanation atleast to his puzzled associates? And finally address the issue of what the man who talked about "Life without Death" had to say about his own impending death. The blackout on his last days appears designed to encourage further Indian-style delusions about "the man and his message". Posted by Satpraxis to Aurora Mirabilis at 4:20 AM, February 11, 2008
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Columbus' historic voyage was financed by wealthy ...":
I live in Spain and in Spain everybody regards him as a Spanish or Spanish Jew. To say he was Italian is proposterous. He signed his name as Cristobal Colon, never in his notes did he write in Italian. Most of his notes are in Catalan and Castillian and latin. He died in Spain, he has not ties with Italy at all. It is a mistery why Italians and US Americans think he is Italian. Maybe it has to do with the Italian influence in the United States. But out of respect for the discoverer, you guys should change your history books to whats right...or at least say his birth place was a mistery... But to say he was Italian 100%, why, because Italians say so?. Posted by Anonymous to Marketime at 2:01 PM, February 12, 2008
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Dr. Tony Ward Dip. Arch. (Birm) Academic Programme, Tertiary Education and Sustainable Design Consultant(Ph) (07) 307 2245(m) 027 22 66 563(e) email@example.com Posted by Tony Ward to Savitri Era Open Forum at 9:24 PM, February 09, 2008
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Classical-bred artists have invested their learnin...":
Some good points but the real question is who is Matthew's Spiritual Master? Matthew little-ji perhaps? Spiritual Masters are THE source of the Revelation of Truth. And the only key to Spiritual "transformation". It does not come from any other place. It does not fall out of the sky. It comes from Adept-Realizers. They are also the sources and inspiration of all True Culture and Civilization.Guru-less, equals god-less, equals culture-less.
Western art went through three broard phases. The glorification of god, then after the Renaissance, the "glorification" of meat-body man, then since WW2, and especially now, the in your face awfulness of the street level "reality"---the "reality" as portrayed in the various forms of "reality" TV which the masses thoroughly enjoy. Posted by Anonymous to Savitri Era Learning Forum at 12:26 PM, February 08, 2008
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "A profoundly atheistic interpretation of the natur...":
Exoteric religions (as per "faith" and theology) and scientism, share the same basic reductionist presumptions. Namely that we are inherently separate from the Divine Conscious Light, from the world process altogether, and from each other.All of these are presumed to be entirely "other" are are thus objectified. One of the Upanishads tells us that whenever there is presumed other then fear spontaneously arises. What is more the objectified "other" is always thus your enemy, and you are always thus at war with everything "other" including the Divine Coscious Light.
Plus the moment that you objectify anything you automatically seek to control it (the "other"), and will thus eventually destroy the "other". So how "profound" could anyones understanding of anything possibly be when they are completely wrapped up in this (hell deep) fear based asana?
And what has the "resurrection of jesus" got to do with anything? What about the tooth fairy, santa claus, and the easter rabbit, all of which belong (with "jesus") to the same pantheon of childhood cartoon characters. Theology reduces the Divine Conscious Light to the merely mortal meat-body human scale. And thus both controls the Divine and uses the "divine" to justify the inevitable horrors produced, justified, and promoted by the ecclesiastical "authorities". Murder and mayhem, imperial conquest, and empire justified by the genocidal tribal deity. Posted by Anonymous to Savitri Era Open Forum at 10:47 AM, February 06, 2008
Chris TerryNelson has left a new comment on your post "A profoundly atheistic interpretation of the natur...":
Just to be clear - from a Christian perspective, God (the Divine Conscious Light) has chosen to be "merely mortal meat-body human scale" in Jesus of Nazareth. This is a scandal to our natural reason, along the lines of the tooth fairy, santa claus, etc. But God has done it out of love for us. It is God's self-reduction, not ours. If we were gods, we would not reduce ourselves for the sake of love. We would stay on our thrones, and it is precisely because we refuse to understand the love of this incarnate God that we continue to murder. God's coming down to us in the human Jesus is the greatest news to all cultures and all religions. Jesus overcoming the power of death in the resurrection is even greater news. Posted by Chris TerryNelson to Savitri Era Open Forum at 10:24 AM, February 07, 2008