I am skeptical of anyone who claims that The Mother is still working behind the scenes

Re: What Jugal told me about Record of Yoga by Govind on Sun 25 Mar 2012 08:51 PM IST |  Profile |  Permanent Link

In IY no traditionally recognized and validated means is barred. But some very powerful additional options are provided. For e.g. 1) here the Mother's Force can do it for the Sadhak

by Sandeep on Mon 26 Mar 2012 05:07 AM IST |  Profile |  Permanent Link

Just because Nolini felt something doesn't mean that today any devotee who feels drawn to her is automatically inducted into "Her body"… In today's circumstances, this would have to happen in a dream or a vision. I am skeptical of anyone who claims that the Mother is still working behind the scenes and her hand is visible in this or that event. If you think so, you should prove it by offering a prediction on what will happen one year from now. That should be a valid test to prove the authenticity of the guidance.

I am not suggesting that Sri Aurobindo and the Mother no longer exist or do not guide anyone; all I am suggesting is that whatever guidance comes through inevitably get distorted due to inevitable human imperfections. Therefore, I prefer to shy away from any broad claims of their continued guidance… Nolini had attained the Overmind so the guidance he received then was better than what other existing disciples might be receiving today. Its one thing to feel her presence; its quite another to actually receive perfect guidance. Permanent Link

Liesbeth Stikkelman commented on Luc Venet on Satprem Dear Mr. Venet,

I was much intrigued by your interesting lifetime adventures with Satprem and other people. How hard it must have been, it still is interesting to find out what happened during all those years.

I am a student at the Elektoor institute in The Netherlands and at the moment I am doing research on people worldwide who are trying to live the supramental Yoga in a practical way. I wonder if it is possible to communicate with you about your experiences?

For instance, I am curious in which way you live nowadays. Do you still try to reach a next level in your human life by practising the supramental Yoga, if it is not too impertinent to ask? Or do you know people who are trying this?

I really hope to hear from you soon. Best regards, Liesbeth Stikkelman

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