Saturday, July 30, 2011

If they have failed to rise to the occasion that Heehs presented to them


Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Subjugating Jugal": Dear Tusarji,
You evidently live in a world that is monochromatic and which appears to be dominated by a hue called "Heehs". If you think that you and your sympathizers are doing Heehs a disservice by giving him the importance that you are bestowing upon him, you are mistaken. Because it is people like yourself who have made Heehs larger than life. In fact, Heehs seems to occupy some of your lives more than Sri Aurobindo does. 
It is therefore rather hilarious to see you attribute Jugal's or RYD's downfall to the rise of Heehs. For, if they have failed to rise to the occasion that Heehs presented to them and they have instead chosen to fall as a result of their personal attachment to their own limitations, Heehs should hardly be blamed for it.  Sincerely, Subhas Posted by Anonymous to Savitri Era at 4:29 PM, July 30, 2011

Re: Manoj Das Gupta demands ... Definition of Sadhana by Sandeep on Mon 08 Nov 2010 11:24 PM IST |  Profile |  Permanent Link
Sri Aurobindo and the Mother said all kinds of things to all kinds of people in different situations. What principle to apply in a given situation requires some contact with the plane of Intuition. People tend to choose the quote which suits their personality and matches their outlook in life. A Polish philosopher has coined something known as the law of the Infinite Cornucopia which says that for any given doctrine one wants to believe, there is never a shortage of arguments by which one can support it. 
by Sandeep on Mon 08 Nov 2010 11:30 PM IST |  Profile |  Permanent Link
Before I get misinterpreted, let me add that I am not defending anyone here but merely pointing out the futility of applying any given quote to this complex situation.

Comment posted by Sandeep Re: An Open Letter...The Jhumur Episode and The Registrar’s Non-Performance, date 22 September 2010
Sadhaks living in an Ashram do not have academic freedom (neither Peter Heehs not RYD); they must seek a higher kind of freedom - a freedom out of their lower self.

Guha bats for Heehs


BAN THE BAN Calcutta Telegraph - Saturday , July 30 , 2011 Politics and play: Ramachandra Guha. The republic of India bans books with a depressing frequency.
Gandhi scholars in particular, and Indians in general, owe Rajmohan and Gopalkrishna a debt of gratitude, for pressurizing the government to allow the free circulation of Joseph Lelyveld’s The Great Soul in 27 states of the country. It remains illegal to own or possess a copy of the book in the 28th state of the Union, which happens to be Gandhi’s own. […]
Sadly, the bravery (and decency) of Gandhi’s grandsons has not been emulated by defenders or descendants of some other great men of modern India. Consider the fate, within India, of a biography of Sri Aurobindo written by Peter Heehs. Heehs is a real scholar, the author of several substantial works of history (among them The Bomb in Bengal). What’s more, he was for many years in charge of the archives in the Aurobindo Ashram in Pondicherry.
In 2008, Columbia University Press in New York published Peter Heehs’s The Lives of Sri Aurobindo. The product of a lifetime of scholarship, its empirical depth and analytical sharpness is unlikely to be surpassed. For Heehs knows the documentary evidence on and around Aurobindo’s life better than anyone else. He has a deep knowledge of the political and spiritual worlds in which his subject moved and by which he was shaped.
Alas, this remarkable life of a remarkable Indian cannot be read in India. This is because of an injunction on its sale asked for by self-professed devotees of Aurobindo, and granted by a hyper-active high court in Orissa. Heehs’s book is respectful but not reverential. He salutes Aurobindo for his contributions to the freedom struggle. Before Aurobindo, writes Heehs, “no one dared to speak openly of independence; twenty years later, it became the movement’s accepted goal”. He praises Aurobindo’s contributions to literature and philosophy. However, Heehs is gently sceptical of the claim that Aurobindo possessed supernatural powers. “To accept Sri Aurobindo as an avatar is necessarily a matter of faith,” he writes, adding that “matters of faith quickly become matters of dogma”.
This understated, unexceptionable statement drove the dogmatic followers of Aurobindo bananas. Some devotees filed a case in the Orissa High Court, restraining the Indian publisher from circulating the book in India. Other devotees filed a case in a Tamil Nadu court, seeking the revocation of Peter Heehs’s visa and his extradition from this country. By these (and other) acts, the contemporary keepers of Aurobindo’s flame showed themselves to be far less courageous than the grandsons of Gandhi. Is their icon so fragile that he can be destroyed or even damaged by a single, scholarly, book? […]
As these cases illustrate, the republic of India bans books with a depressing frequency. Three factors promote this culture of banning. First, the descendants or devotees of biographical subjects are often too nervous or insecure to have them discussed with objectivity and rigour. Second, these fanatical or insecure followers have found an ally in the courts. Although the Supreme Court has tended to act on the side of the freedom of expression, lower courts have been less wise. Judges who are malleable or publicity-hungry pass injunctions forbidding the free circulation of books and works of art. Few petitioners have the time, or money, or energy, to wait and fight till the case reaches the Supreme Court (a process that can take years). A ban once invoked is therefore rarely revoked. […]
Lower courts and even some high courts have been accomplices in this process of the stifling of free speech. So too have been politicians of all parties and governments. Indian democrats may take solace in the few exceptions: these being the institution of the Supreme Court, and those public-spirited public figures, Rajmohan and Gopalkrishna Gandhi. ramachandraguha@yahoo.in

We move on to Aurobindo, who, again, at times propagated ideas uncannily similar to Islam, as in the wish to return to a Golden Age where all was truth and righteousness. Then we come to Vivekananda, to this writer the most ambivalent, and hence most appealing, of the four. Ramachandra Guha The Telegraph Saturday, April 17, 2004  10:12 AM,  7:30 AM

Bowl for past, bat for change Calcutta Telegraph - Samhita Chakraborty Lahiri 16 Dec 2010
One thing you can't accuse Ramachandra Guha of is mincing his words. ... “I found the views of Vivekananda and Aurobindo archaic and stiff,” was the reply to a variation of the question that he is asked the most about his book.  9:40 AM, 6:18 PM, 7:30 AM

Sri Aurobindo’s Opposition Why the Indian establishment resisted him MANGESH V. NADKARNI Indian Express  EDITORIALS & ANALYSIS Thursday, March 21, 2002
The Gandhian establishment was not entirely happy with Sri Aurobindo because of his insistence that India must cultivate the kshatriya spirit, not merely Bhakti and Jnana.
The reason why the academic establishment in India was opposed to Sri Aurobindo is that he rejected the colonial-missionary model of history, which regarded the Aryan invasion theory as its crown-jewel. Sri Aurobindo was probably the first to issue a warning against the invasion theory in his book On the Vedas, written nearly 80 years ago. Nor was Sri Aurobindo an uncritical admirer of the Western liberal-humanistic tradition.

Tuesday, July 26, 2011

Subhas' fine words

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Mistrust permeates the Ashram fraternity": Dear Tusarji,
The myths created by people such as Anurag Banerjee and RY Deshpande, are quite clearly designed to breed mistrust among members of the SA Ashram fraternity.
The myth of the Hindi poem that Anurag Banerjee claimed was authored by Sri Aurobindo was removed from his Overman Foundation blog shortly after he found that he had no other way to wriggle out of his goof up. Instead of answering some of the pertinent questions that were being asked to him by people like myself, he chose the convenient way of trying to wipe out his goof-up from cyber space by elimiting his post, as if it never existed. Unfortunately for him, the damage was already done to his reputation as news has spread irreversably on the internet.
RY Deshpande also appears to be another creator of myths. His favorite myth appears to be that Sri Aurobindo's poem the Savitri is being tampered by the SA Ashram. 
However, like Anurag Banerjee he makes the same fatal blunder of believing that the larger SA Ashram fraternity will value more the words of a few ambitious, self-promoting and disgruntled individuals rather than relying on a reputed institution such as the SA Ashram.
That you promote the view points of people like Anurag Banerjee and RY Deshpande says much about your intentions.
The only pity is that all of you find it convenient to soil the names such as that of Sri Aurobindo and the Savitri in your petty, ambitious endeavours of self-promotion. Sincerely, Subhas Posted by Anonymous to Savitri Era at 1:21 PM, July 26, 2011

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Wrestling with a ghost is a bewildering propositio...": Dear Tusar-ji,
LOL!!! It's amusing to see how you see ghosts where there are none. Because my dialogues are REAL. My tortuous questions are equally REAL. The only thing that is left to your imagination is my identity. 
But if all that you are capable of is to "multiply [y]our decibel level", with the hope of scaring the ghosts of your imagination away, you may want to consider the good ol' saying that "empty vessels make most noise." Subhas Posted by Anonymous to Savitri Era at 1:26 PM, July 15, 2011 

History is a mixture of perception and propaganda that confuses some of the fundamental elements of humanity. As a pack animal, the human needs to...
One measure of Empire is to compare the United States and Canada. The slave owners and tax evaders who broke away to form the United States produced some fine words in a written Constitution but were engaged on a ruthless program of genocide and racial discrimination that has continued into recent times and in some aspects continues to survive in what claims to be a free democracy. Those colonists who remained loyal to Empire produced a Canadian nation that avoided genocide and allowed aborigines, English and French to live together in dignity and general harmony. 

How Do You Solve A Problem Like sonia? from ANTIDOTE by naturalorder@gmail.com (Sauvik) "Rome was not built in a day."
And do read the wonderful prose of Gibbon, whose Decline And Fall Of The Roman Empire was published in the same year that Adam Smith's Inquiry Into The Nature And Causes Of The Wealth Of Nations was published, that year being the historic year 1776 - and both these bestsellers were published by the same London publisher. And Gibbon OUTSOLD Smith.

Friday, July 22, 2011

Undesirable and purposeless passages under the radar


Take Larry Seidlitz’s thorough examination of the accusations against Peter, a document that has unfortunately slipped under the radar. Has anyone on the Right actually tried to dissect it and show where Larry might have gone wrong? He takes a neutral, open stance, analyses the allegations against Peter in detail, concludes in some instances that this statement here, that assertion there, is perhaps unnecessary or misplaced, but there are no signs of hostility anywhere. Why has no one on the Right dared to challenge him head on? […]
I should mention in this context that Manoj Das Gupta’s 18-page Reflections is one of the most balanced analyses of the various sides of the issue that one will find. It is unfortunate that this too seems to have slipped under the radar, as it answers many of the questions and accusations still doing the rounds.
In this essay, Larry Seidlitz, a resident and scholar at Pondicherry ...
An Examination of Larry Seidlitz's Defence of Heehs's Biography of Sri Aurobindo. Part 1. 
Mirror of Tomorrow :: Response to the Managing Trustee's “Some Reflections on the Agonising Issue of a Book” by Raman Reddy on Sat 21 Aug 2010 03:30 AM IST  |  Permanent Link  |  Cosmos

Manoj Das Gupta’s Analysis

I need not justify myself to any one. My sole concern is to try to be as faithful as possible, in my present state of consciousness, to the Mother and to the Mother alone. Hasn’t the Mother said: “I need not appear to be good if my sincerity is perfect. It is better to be than to seem.” (CWM, Vol. 15, p. 203) (Manoj Das Gupta’s Analysis, p. 1)

The main accusations against PH may be summarized under the following headings:
1. PH has violated copyright rules.
2. He has deliberately tried to denigrate Sri Aurobindo and lower his image in the eyes of the public.
3. As a consequence, he should be expelled from the Ashram
(Manoj Das Gupta’s Analysis, p. 1)

It is on record that P.H. had taken written permission for quoting from the writings of Sri Aurobindo. As for the bogey of using materials from Puraniji’s notebook, it is more a question of ethical propriety than a violation of copyright. I may mention here in passing that Puraniji has never ceded, in writing, his copyright to the Ashram. However, I agree that the passages thus quoted were quite unnecessary for the purport of the general theme of the book. P.H. himself has realized this at a heavy cost. (Manoj Das Gupta’s Analysis, p. 2)

In my long uninterrupted stay (over 65 years) in the Ashram I do not recall ever witnessing such a virulent commotion as is prevalent today, gripping our community life.

In the context of the above controversy the Ashramites may be classified into three groups:
a)  anti-PH Group—the most vociferous and militant of the three who would stop at nothing short of declaring a “Fatwa”;
b)  pro-PH group—more defensive and non-promotional;
c)  neutral group—this group, for various reasons, prefer to remain if not neutral at least silent….

Needless to say that according to the natural bent of my nature, my swadharma, my spontaneous sympathy is with the third group. But alas, am I permitted to enjoy the luxury of ‘neutrality’ while occupying an unenviable position in the Administration?

[The Managing Trustee quotes here Heehs’ letters regarding his intention to show how Sri Aurobindo transformed himself from the human to the divine]

From the above, my personal inclination is, if not to exonerate P.H. fully at least to give him, what in sporting parlance is known as ‘the benefit of the doubt’. (Manoj Das Gupta’s Analysis, pp. 3-5)

I’m sorry, I’m absolutely unable to agree with those who uphold the strong view that in order to vindicate the honour and prestige of the Ashram, P.H. should be expelled forthwith.

I strongly believe that before taking any hasty decision on the matter, we must be absolutely sure of the correctness of our judgment, weighing carefully, with an unprejudiced mind, all the pros and cons and especially examine the grave consequences that such a drastic action may entail on a spiritual community such as ours.

Another grave danger that we have to be cautious of is not to let our judgement be coloured in any way by our cultural background—what we loosely talk about as “lndian psyche”. Sri Aurobindo clearly states: “The Ashram has nothing to do with Hindu religion or culture or any religion or nationality. The Truth of the Divine which is the spiritual reality behind all religions and the descent of the supramental which is not known to any religion are the sole things which will be the foundation of the work of the future.” (Bulletin, April 1995, p.84) (Manoj Das Gupta’s Analysis, pp. 5-6)

It all began over an interview of Auroville Today with PH, in its August issue of 2008. Soon after, with the help of some friends R. began to circulate through the Internet and other means, a selection of extracts from PH’s book. This led to unprecedented furore and hue and cry among a section of devotees, culminating in a signature campaign—something that is never heard of in any Ashram—and goes obnoxiously against the exclusive character of our Ashram—for removing P.H. from the Archives. (I may say here in passing that I had already initiated a move asking PH to stay away from the Archives). The question that puzzles me, even to this day, is—Why did R of all persons, who by all accounts seemed to be a quiet and unobtrusive person, suddenly take up the cudgel to bash PH with? How does he justify such an action in the light of the Mother’s advice to the inmates of the Ashram put up on the Notice Board?

When you have nothing pleasant to say about something or somebody in the Ashram, keep silent.
You must know that this silence is faithfulness to the Divine’s work.

Whatever be the reason, R. has certainly achieved the dubious success of arousing the rabble like Antony in Julius Caesar:

…mischief, thou art afoot,
Take thou what course thou wilt!

(Manoj Das Gupta’s Analysis, p. 7)

Here is an interesting observation by a thoughtful Ashramite that should make us pause to think: “Peter Heehs, as we and several others who have read his book feel, was motivated by an ambition to pass off as an academic critic by Western standards and used certain materials irreverently and without creating the right context for them. When extracts from his book were circulated by his critics in thousands and through the internet, that was done even without that much context which Heehs had built up. The Press wrought further havoc by selectively quoting from the lawyer’s submissions in the court and from other circulated materials only such stuff that suited its present day competitive character. For any unbiased person these extracts read far more horrible than when read in the book Time will tell who is more responsible for the public furore: the author who lacked proper understanding of his sublime task or those who picked up and circulated the very lines and passages from his book which they would not like people to read and gave those words publicity reaching tens of thousands of people whereas the book itself might have been limited to a few hundred or just a thousand copies. How many of those who are agitated read the book or would have read the book? But everybody read the undesirable and purposeless passages so widely distributed.” (Manoj Das Gupta’s Analysis, p. 7)

My Stand
From day one till this date my stand has been one of prayer and patience and wait and see. I know that it is very disconcerting for the ‘man of action’ and I have been accused of ‘escapism’ and gross dereliction of my duty. To these critics I can only say: “Sorry, I have been prompted to this by what I consider to be my faithfulness to the Mother; and I can assert in all sincerity that not even for a second have I ever had any remorse of conscience, admitting that I have one!”

It is better to perish following one’s own dharma; disastrous it is to follow someone else’s dharma. (Bhagwad Gita, 3:35)

I especially took courage for my stand from the following advice of the Mother to me: 
After all, it is always preferable not to make any decision for or against things, but to watch events as they develop, with the impartiality of a witness, relying on the divine Wisdom which will decide for the best and do what is needful. (CWM, Vol. 12, p. 323)  

(Manoj Das Gupta’s Analysis, p. 8) 

[1] Manoj Das Gupta’s Analysis (pp. 9-10)
A Few Comments
I shall now try to analyse what went wrong with PH.

i) The Intention: PH has clearly stated that in his recent biography he has ‘tried to bring out Sri Aurobindo’s effort to achieve the full supramental transformation’—to highlight what Sri Aurobindo said: “I transformed my nature from what it was to what it was not”.

One can find nothing wrong with the intention. On the contrary; it can be, even for the non-intellectual bhakta, a very interesting and soul-inspiring topic.

ii) The Methodology: In my humble opinion, it is here that P.H. went wrong, to have in mind only a particular readership. In his own words: “I chose to write my recent book mostly for an audience made up of Westerners or westernized Indians”. He therefore chose a style and language conducive to his goal and which would appeal to his limited audience; therefore he doggedly adopted an anti-hagiographic style.

His obsession of confining himself to the academic circle alone, has led him to try to analyze even some of Sri Aurobindo’s actions in the light of Western psychoanalysis! As an example, look at the stupid motive he tries to ascribe to Sri Aurobindo’s writing the beautiful play Vasavadatta!! It is this over-smartness of his which has proved to be a great irritant in his otherwise informative book. I am surprised that PH who is well-read in all the writings of Sri Aurobindo should have been so callous to Sri Aurobindo’s strong views on psycho-analysis prevalent in Europe.

“I find it difficult to take these psycho-analysts at all seriously when they try  to scrutinise spiritual experience by the flicker of their torch-lights,—yet perhaps one ought to, for half-knowledge is a powerful thing and can be a great obstacle to the coming in front of the true Truth.” (SABCL, Vol. 24, p. 1608)

From all accounts so far received, his book has been widely acclaimed by this section of readership. But then it has also opened the Pandora’s Box.

Had he only kept in mind the following advice of the Mother he would have avoided the pitfall.

My point of view is this, that anything written by a sadhak about Sri Aurobindo which brings him down to an ordinary level and admits the reader to a sort of gossiping familiarity with him is an unfaithfulness o Him and His work. Good intentions are not sufficient, it is necessary that this should be understood by everybody. (CWM, Vol. 13, p. 27)

How l wish that PH would have written his book unmindful of any appreciative audience whatsoever—like the wandering minstrel of yore who sang just for the joy of singing!

To drive my point home I shall take recourse to an analogy (take it not with a pinch of salt but with a hand-full of salt!): A competent artist who is dexterous with his paint and brush decides to paint a portrait of Sri Aurobindo. This artist loves children. He therefore decides that his painting should be intended for children alone. Now, what do children like? Cartoons of course! Therefore our artist sets about to draw a cartoon of Sri Aurobindo instead!! (QED) (Manoj Das Gupta’s Analysis, pp. 9-10)

[2] 23 February 1932 (Bulletin, Feb 2000, p. 80)
[3] SABCL, Vol. 23, p. 556

I want people to refute her claims, based on evidence, intellectual criticisms, or even Yoga


From Harish Kumar harishkumar09@yahoo.co.in date 21 July 2011 21:22
OPEN LETTER TO THE AUROBINDONIAN COMMUNITY

Sri Aurobindo dedicated his life to bringing about the manifestation of the truth-conscious Supermind on this planet, so that it would become the governing principle of life on Earth. His Integral Yoga was aimed at the establishment of a Divine Life and the divinisation of matter by dethroning Mind and making Supermind the primary instrument of the new creation.

Patrizia Norelli-Bachelet (known as Thea to her students) has in her works given a complete exposition of the descent and action of Supermind in this world. She has given the keys (by way of number-power, zodiacal tradition and the sacred sciences) to understand the action of Supermind and how one can consciously participate in the evolution (supramentalisation) of humankind and the establishment of a gnostic society. By unveiling the secrets of the ancient zodiac, she has objectively established the fact that India is the Guru amongst nations, whereas others make this claim merely out of nationalistic fervour and by way of repeating the old formulas.

Thea's cosmology has proven empirically that Sri Aurobindo is Vishnu's 9th Avatar according to rigorous Vedic prescriptions, she has proven that Sri Aurobindo's most conclusive victory was the process of his death and return, what exactly that means in the Supramental Manifestation, and why it was necessary. She has presented the Formula he cemented in his own symbol and shown how it has worked meticulously in India particularly through two Lines, Solar and Lunar, and how the entire development of the new independent India has taken place according to His Formula.

Yet, we neither see an enthusiastic acceptance nor an informed criticism of her works. Why exactly are her prescriptions wrong? What exactly is the mechanism of the operations of Supermind, if not the one explained by Thea? We do not hear anything on these lines. Instead all we hear is mindless accusations levelled against her, ad hominem attacks, false charges and accusations of self-glorification from self-styled spokespersons of the community.

Scientific progress happens through a process of developing a hypothesis and testing it against observable phenomenon. If the observed phenomenon does not correspond to the hypothesis, it is discarded and a new one is propounded which explains the reality around us.

Occultism, as the Mother opined, is also a science since it is reproducible. Occult experiments have a universal validity and can be tested. Nobody accused Einstein of self-glorification when he proposed The Theory of Relativity to explain the orbital eccentricity of Mercury. Rather it was tested against observable data and on this strength it was accepted or rejected. Those who put their faith in Newtonian Mechanics and disagreed with Einstein gave valid reasons for doing so and did not spend their time making ad hominem attacks against Einstein.

If Patrizia Norelli-Bachelet is wrong, what exactly is the view and tested hypothesis of the Aurobindonian Community regarding the mechanism of the Supramental Descent and its establishment as the governing principle on this planet? What exactly is the mechanism and its time-frame, if any, for its descent and demonstrable action? What is their opinion on the Return of Sri Aurobindo and the role he would play in the creation of a gnostic society? If he would be the prototype of the Gnostic Being, would the descent of Supermind be initiated by his return and if so, how and when would this take place?

Sri Aurobindo stated that India is conscious of her mission in the world and is waiting for the exterior means of its manifestation. What is the Aurobindonian Community doing to facilitate those means? In what way has its failure to rise to this momentous occasion negatively affected conditions in India and delayed its promised renaissance?

Can I have the answers to these questions? [harishkumar09@yahoo.co.in I am 37 years old and I live in the city of Bangalore, in the state of Karnataka. I am self-employed.]

Thursday, July 14, 2011

Misconceptions about the constitution and functioning of the Sri Aurobindo Ashram

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Manoj Das Gupta must go": Dear Tusar-ji,
As you enjoy speculating about many things including my identity and intentions, why not continue in this line and suppose that I am an anonymous agent of the Sri Aurobindo Ashram. But my question to you then would be, does that make my points any less valid? You made certain allegations and sweeping statements. I asked you to be specific. But instead, you have only returned with more sweeping statements and speculations. That certainly doesn't help strengthen your arguments and allegations.

And to dwell longer in the realm of speculation, what if I am indeed a spokesperson of the Ashram, why should you feel visibly uncomfortable to engage with me then? You keep complaining about the SA Ashram's lack of engagement with people like you. (And you of course make the most of it by going on flinging muck on the SA Ashram). And now that someone like me - who might very well be a spokesperson of the SA Ashram as far as you are concerned - reaches out to you, you complain about this too.

Is it therefore of any surprise that the Savitri Era Party appears to figure absolutely nowhere in the SA Ashram's scheme of things? Sincerely, Subhas. Posted by Anonymous to Savitri Era at 7:40 PM, July 13, 2011

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Manoj Das Gupta must go": 
Mr. TNM, you say that the Ashram belongs to The Mother & Sri Aurobindo is to say nothing. Don't you think that this is insulting to The Mother & Sri Aurobindo? If the Ashram doesn't belong to Them, to whom does it belong? The Ashram surely does not belong to the Trustees or Manoj Das Gupta or to Savitri Era Party. The trustees of any institution like the Sri Aurobindo Ashram or Sathya Sai Baba Ashram cannot be perfect souls, but they don't insult The Mother & Sri Aurobindo by saying that the Ashram doesn't belong to Them. You should be more sensitive to the feelings of thousand and millions of other devotees who regularly go for pilgrimage to the Ashram only because it belongs to Them. All these sincere devotees don't bother who is Manoj Das Gupta or Savitri Era Party. The only thing that matters to them is The Mother & Sri Aurobindo. Most sincerely. Subbu. Posted by Anonymous to Savitri Era at 5:45 PM, July 13, 2011

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Ashram's silence might lead to scams": Dear Tusar-ji, You state:
"...the same “spiritual institution” [Sri Aurobindo Ashram] files reams of refutations in various courts from time to time the contents of which never come to the notice of the inmates and devotees."

Can you please be a little more specific and give specific instances when such refutations if any were not brought to the notice of the concerned inmates or devotees? Or are you making sweeping statements without any basis, like so many do?

Secondly, you seem to carry some misconceptions about the constitution and functioning of the Sri Aurobindo Ashram when you invoke all the "Stakeholders." Because you ought to know that the only stakeholders in the Sri Aurobindo Ashram are The Mother, Sri Aurobindo and The Divine they represent. All the rest, inmates, devotees, and sundry who wish to associate with the Sri Aurobindo Ashram are merely there to serve a cause, ideal, philosophy or entity and they do so voluntarily and on their own free-will. If some are not happy with The Mother, Sri Aurobindo, The Divine or their Ashram, they can dissociate themselves at any point of time, unconditionally. But the universal laws of decent behaviour suggest, especially in a "spiritual institution" that all sense of dissatisfaction or displeasure be expressed in a respectful and dignified manner. Too much to ask from Humanity? 

One would have hoped that this would have been the order of the day during the Era of Savitri, but alas all of the Savitri Era blogs have so far proved just the opposite... But to end on a positive note, let's all hope that Good Sense will someday prevail and that the Savitri Era will live to its expectations. Sincerely. Subhas. 

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Subhas’ Achilles’ heel": "Tusar's & Anurag's Achilles' heel":
Tusar has astutely confirmed that those with devious intentions, irrespective of their devotion and passion, are bound to goof up!

Anurag goofed up because his intentions to discredit the Sri Aurobindo Ashram got exposed. He tried to show off that he is more capable than the SA Ashram by trying to sensationalize not only the most trivial of so-called discoveries (which is most probably anything else but one) but by hastily jumping to conclusions without due consideration. It would quite clearly appear that he is very anxious to show that the research of his Overman Foundation is better than that of the SA Ashram. Long way to go for him... as he will need lots of patience to learn to be humble (even when the pill is hard to swallow) and be careful. Or he needs to learn a few lessons from his comrade Tusar; i.e. give up all hypocrisy and openly come out against the Sri Aurobindo Ashram.

But, Tusar, even though, unlike your hypocritical comrade, you know how to distinguish a well argued and written comment, I am disappointed to find that just like your comrade you too like to jump to conclusions... and therefore goof up. Because how does my last or preceding comments allow you to erroneously conclude that I am one of Heehs' hounds? Would you have any evidence to substantiate your claims? Or do you, like your comrade Anurag also need to take a few lessons in humility and patience? Sincerely. Subhas. 

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Samalo Pagri Anurag": And now let us treat ourselves to some fine poetry that is fit for the occasion:

Buddhi Sambhalo Shyam

The night has come, the day is done,
Darkness is all around
A dunce is free, to act as a referee
On any material that’s found.

The tamasha is on, all sanity has gone,
This is called scholarship now
Excite the crowd, let your own praise be loud
Push to the forefront somehow.

Aise hi Shyam dhale
Aise hi Anurag chale.

Subhas
Posted by Anonymous to Savitri Era at 12:44 PM, July 11, 2011

Monday, July 11, 2011

India needs aggressive virtues

Re: Four movements of consciousness Posted - Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:49 am
More than a poet, Aurobindo had ideas that attract a philosopical mind. All wars according to him are between the Divine and the Asuric. He speaks of the victory of the Allies.The Allies have stood for human values, he says.
He speaks of Vedic divisions of the Aryans and the Dravidians. We know the nomadic Aryans forcibly encroached another culture though in the long run it got mixed up. He says the Mantras of the Vedas illuminated our minds.
He says that no individual is indispensable. Our modern leaders think that each one of them is essential historically. India needs aggressive virtues. The spirit of soaring idealism is essential. That we lack in the modern era. So our leaders do not have any compunction in accepting bribes, in nepotism etc. Aurobindo had long back realised the follies of future politicians.
Hindu society has the customary habit of deifying something. When they do it, they forget the negative side of it. That is why we have innumerable saints and fake teachers in this century.
He wants religions not to fight because in doing so both the disputing 'pots' will break. He also says that there must be the remnants of past civilizations so that the process of continuity should not break. 
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Friday, July 8, 2011

You definitely have no right to talk about Hinduism and its scriptures


Jason Kay says: July 6, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Girdhar, Have noticed that Paulette Hindu hater Hadnagy who makes a point that Arovillians are told to keep away from politics seems to be very aware of politics especially the anti hindu side of it.. 

Jason Kay says: July 6, 2011 at 12:37 pm
“To Girdhar and Duart in particular, but also to those who cannot understand why in Auroville we don’t even debate on Muslims, politics etc.,”
nobody here is talking about the average muslim .You and your colleagues have been writing on mohammed in your books so on that basis you been asked on those quotes from the koran and hadiths which you are so scared to answer but then you think you have the right to attack hindus and then talk about the vedas..If you cant even talk about the koran but instead give excuses for the atrocities its inspired its followers to do on other human beings especially the hindus who you hate and attack then you definitely have no right to talk about Hinduism and its scriptures.
Jason Kay says: July 6, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Paulette Hindu hater Hadnagy, I dont care if Kireet Joshi is an Aurovilian or Reptilian because the article is about the Max muller syndrome where the norelli cult is just one example of that mentality but by reading all your replies proves you suffer from the syndrome the most more then even the norellis..Everything you been talking about on this thread is about yourself and your books .. now because you have been caught out again you are twisting things which proves you are a fraud .You are the one who was boasting about the greatness of mohammed and islam which i dont care about but then you should have some intellectual integrity and answer on the quotes from the koran ..So dont make pathetic excuses and start attacking people when everyone he can clearly see you are a Hindu hater
David says: July 6, 2011 at 2:04 pm Dear Jason
Now you are witnessing Paulette Hadnagys true behaviour. She’s part of the Auroville dictatorship that announces what books should be read or not and then burned if they dont fit into the criteria of their agenda. This is not Santhana Dharma but this behaviour is of Christian bigots who burned down the Ancient Library of Alexandria. She’s only interested in her own fame and recognition. Many good people have been run out of Auroville because of people like her. Auroville is doomed by the people who have abused their power and the teachings of Sri Aurobindo and the Mother for their own personal petty agendas..
Jason Kay says: July 6, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Paulette Hindu Hater Hadnagy, I personally dont care what Aurobindos instructions for the ashram were because every Hindu knows very well what he stood for and that was Hinduism and its civilisation.. And also Aurobindo or the mother are not higher than Hindu Dharma and its Vedas..You should be grateful that you are living on the hospitality of Hindus because sooner or later when they all find out you are a Hindu hater you will be packed off from India for good..As you dont really know who i am you so you dont have no idea what mess you have put Auroville and yourself into till everything is revealed..Just enjoy the show till the mystery unfolds as karma has a very strange way of catching up with people at perfect divine timing and then you will know the truth about everything…
Jason Kay says: July 7, 2011 at 12:24 pm
The Indians themselves in India who are brainwashed by the the Indian state with its version of secularism which really means anti Hinduism are the worst of the Hindu haters who are a product from the same British education system left over from the british and which was further manipulated by Indian Marxists who are in positions in government running educational and cultural institutions and who have been for the last 60 years distorting and manipulating india’s history and the Hindu scriptures to suit their own agenda.So its not surprising just like the church was paying Max Muller to distort the Vedas we also have the anti hindu government giving grants to fraudsters like Paullete Hadnagy..The Indian government has given many grants to many anti hindu scholars like Romilla Thaper and others with Marxist backgrounds and who have done immense damage to by distorting indian history and Hinduism by to white wash Muslim atrocities against Hindus by actually blaming Hindus themselves.

That’s why I purposely brought in islam because I knew very well the typical reaction of anti hindus where they go out of their way to justify islam and its atrocities on India.This is what Paullete Hadnagy is trying to do and that’s why she went into a frenzy when Aurobindos quotes scrutinising islam were brought out into the open because that’s exactly what he thought and its no distortion because at that time India was getting torn apart due to islamic separatism. Girdhar caught her out when he presented the rest of Aurobindos paragraph on the Moguls which Paullete made moronic excuses to get out of it..
Whenever anyone comes across the anti hindu Indians or westerners they should do the same experiment bring up the quotes from the koran and the hadiths. Then watch the the fireworks when they go on a defensive to the extremes of stupidity which Paullete Hadnagy has shown and done. She even brought in how she feels the pain of local muslim shopkeepers which has nothing to do with the thread.. And when these anti hindus cant prove anything in their defence then that’s why they start the well known false accusations ‘that you must be an extremist or an RSS person or the same as the ones who killed Mahatma Gandhi ‘blah blah blah crap’
And all this just to avoid the facts thrown at them. that’s why she’s desperately trying to make Aurobindo look ‘secular’ in the anti hindu template created by the Indian state by misquoting him or trying to deny he even said those things about Islam or Christianity by attacking the people he was with. This is all in attempt to de-Hinduize Aurobindo and to break him off from Hinduism so he can be recreated as some new prophet and Saviour of some new cult religion of a pseudo universal religion which has nothing to do with the Hindu religion which he loved so much and wanted to expand around the world to save it from self destruction .
Unfortunately for the anti hindu establishment and the AuroVillains from the neo colony Auroville many Hindus are not that naïve or can be manipulated any more because they have reawakened..