Monday, November 22, 2010

TLOSA controversy information handbook

From Prof Kamal Das profkamaldas@gmail.com to tusarnmohapatra@gmail.com date 22 November 2010 09:54 subject TLOSA controversy information handbook
Dear Shri Mohapatra 
Attached is a compilation of documents. Please use as you may deem fit. 
Warm regards [TLOSA -- The Information Handbook.pdf 7348K]
TLOSA Controversy! Falsehood! Lies!
The Information Handbook   Table of Contents
The Controversy  Falsehood and Lies  Peter Heehs and his friends Review of Peter Heehs’ The Lives of Sri Aurobindo – by J.B.P. More, Internationally Eminent Writer and Historian ... Annexures.

Sunday, November 21, 2010

Jeffrey Kripal praises this biography in words no less diabolic

by manasi on Thu 28 May 2009 03:54 PM IST |  Profile |  Permanent Link
A word about the Kripal connection. I have read what you wrote in response to Sraddhalu clearing Mr. Heehs of all charges of the JK connection based on Debashish's statement. Have you really read the book TLOSA carefully? If so then may I ask why is Mr. Heehs thanking Jeffrey Kripal and Michael Murphy in his acknowledgments if the back-cover was made after the book was complete and the manuscript submitted to the publishers and he had really no say in it. May I also ask how come in Jeffrey Kripal's previously published book on Esalen (2007) he quotes portions from Mr. Heehs' unpublished manuscripts to justify his tantric reading of Sri Aurobindo. Why was the manuscript handed over to him if they do not agree with each other? These are some of the unanswered questions whose answers may never become public due to sudden outcry in favor of Mr. Heehs. Who knows if this din and noise taking the acceptable shield of intellectual freedom is not drowning the truth. 
Mirror of Tomorrow :: Sri Aurobindo Ashram Trust does not Approve ... 25 Sep 2010 by RY Deshpande
The views of Michael Murphy and Jeffery Kripal are prominently displayed on the back cover. These condemn and trivialize all other biographies of Sri Aurobindo including those written by senior sadhaks from the time of Sri Aurobindo and ...
Mirror of Tomorrow :: Review Article of Peter Heehs's The Lives of ... 22 Sep 2010 by RY Deshpande
Heehs has actually met and talked with Jeffrey Kripal while writing the present book. So he strives unconvincingly to pin down Sri Aurobindo by insinuating off and on that the latter did have some sexual adventures and desires and even ...
Mirror of Tomorrow :: Sraddhalu Ranade writes to Manoj Das 6 Aug 2010 by RY Deshpande
In my first letter to the Ashram Trust I exposed the sinister nexus between Peter Heehs (PH), Richard Hartz (RH) and Jeffrey Kripal (JK) funded by Michael Murphy's (MM) Esalen Institute for studying Sri Aurobindo's Record of Yoga. ...
Mirror of Tomorrow :: Sri Aurobindo's Marriage—a discussion by ... 5 Mar 2010 by RY Deshpande
In fact, it is by basing himself on this definition of maithunananda and a few other statements made by Heehs that the infamous Jeffrey Kripal writes in his book on Esalen that Sri Aurobindo “associated the way of Ananda with the ...
Mirror of Tomorrow :: Sanatana Dharma XXI—Avatar and Grace 17 Oct 2009 by RY Deshpande
"Michael's trip has reinforced his intention to advance the transformative practice revealed by a record Sri Aurobindo kept for some twenty years of his day-to-day practice of yoga. He will work to this end with Jeffrey Kripal, ...
"Sri Aurobindo on Hinduism" by Peter Heehs -- reviewed by Raman Reddy 11 Aug 2010 by Raman Reddy
What is also contradictory to the basic stand of Heehs and his mentors, Jeffrey Kripal and Wendy Doniger, is that they have no objection to Hinduism when it comes to Tantric sex, with which they are so comfortable. ...
A critique of the book "The Lives of Sri Aurobindo" by Peter Heehs ... 7 Jun 2010 by Raman Reddy
Heehs has actually met and talked with Jeffrey Kripal while writing the present book. So he strives unconvincingly to pin down Sri Aurobindo by insinuating off and on that the latter did have some sexual adventures and desires and even ...
A critique of the book "The Lives of Sri Aurobindo" by Peter Heehs ... 4 Mar 2010 by Raman Reddy
In fact, it is by basing himself on this definition of maithunananda and a few other statements made by Heehs that the infamous Jeffrey Kripal writes in his book on Esalen that SriAurobindo “associated the way of Ananda with the ...
The Book and its Background -- by Alok Pandey 27 Oct 2009 by Raman Reddy
Is it a mere co-incidence that the very same Jeffrey Kripal praises this biography in words no less diabolic – he says that the author of the Lives “humanises and problematises” the life of Sri Aurobindo. And Peter includes him in the ...
Comments on the Preface -- by Varuna Mitra 8 Jul 2009 by Raman Reddy
Dutta, Leela Gandhi, Aloka Ghosh, Ela Ghosh, Medha Gunay, Leslie Kriesel, Jeffrey Kripal, Marcel Kvassay, Julian Lines, Wendy Lines, Wendy Lochner, Raphael Malangin, Alka Mishra, Amp Mitra, the late Joya Mitter, Janine Morisset, ...
Sraddhalu's Open Letter to Auroville and Centres 4 May 2009 by S Ranade
Heehs is promoted by Jeffrey Kripal who is none other than the author of the infamous Kali's Child, in which Kripal "proves", with years of meticulous "research", that Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa was a paedophile and homosexual having ...
A critique of the book "The Lives of Sri Aurobindo" by Peter Heehs ... 26 Apr 2009 by Raman Reddy
Source: Peter Heehs, The Lives of Sri Aurobindo Jeffrey Kripal's 1995 book from University of Chicago, Kali's Child: The Mystical and the Erotic in the Life and Teachings of Ramakrishna was a psychoanalytic study of the Bengali mystic ...
A critique of the book "The Lives of Sri Aurobindo" by Peter Heehs ... 22 Apr 2009 by Raman Reddy
Alok: Incidentally, one of the persons behind the book, who is also a friend of the funding institute, has already written a damaging book on Sri Ramakrishna and is now keen to write one on Sri Aurobindo's life. Angiras: Jeffrey Kripal ...
Ranganath's reply to Angiras 17 Mar 2009 by Raman Reddy
Peter can deny his contact and relation with Jeffrey Kripal, but there is sufficient evidence of contact between the two. Ranganath: In his own words, he takes Sri Aurobindo's yoga “quite seriously”, not whole-heartedly or with full ...
Frequently Asked Questions 25 Dec 2008 by General Editor
But ph's book on Sri Aurobindo is nowhere nearly as damaging as Jeffrey Kripal's book on Ramakrishna Paramahansa. Is the comparison justified? 9. PH has claimed that the controversy has been created by a selection of quotations taken ...
One aspect of Sri Aurobindo's doctrine is Providential 18 Oct 2010
Now, if you want us to believe that some people are deliberately “tampering” with SriAurobindo's works because they have an Evil or Diabolical plan led by some Jeffrey Kripaland that they are doing so with the full connivance of the ...
Nehru ended up on the same wavelength as Sri Aurobindo 4 Jul 2010
27 Jeffrey Kripal meaningfully comments upon this quotation of Sri Aurobindo as follows: "Little better is Aurobindo's comment that psychoanalysis is ... Indian religions: the spiritual traditions of South Asia : an . ...

Saturday, November 20, 2010

You are begging in an open forum for the trustees

From Sunil sunilauro@gmail.com to tusarnmohapatra@gmail.com date 20 November 2010 18:33 subject For Posting
Manoj Das writes: Dear Mr. Mohapatra, So, you chose to betray my faith in you!

What faith, faith to do a conspiracy? On what grounds you ask to follow your faith, we are here for one faith, that of the higher consciousness. And in that things are not done behind the back, threats and revolts are not screamed when the flow does not go your way. It is only a spoilt child who makes such demands, we are here to achieve something higher.  What kind of life has your faith in MDG brought you.  You have lost the basic love and harmony for others. If you would have surrendered to the Divine instead you wouldn’t be a slave of we know who and you would have had the joy of your soul doing things and wouldn’t need to justify how others are wrong. You sleep when something against Savitri is done, or against the Mother and Sri Aurobindo and are very quick to act if MDG is shown his reality.  This surrender to MDG is your downfall but you cannot thrust it on others as they have a more developed consciousness and aspires for what is to come.

 Your creating a headline ‘There is Nothing Personal about it’ does not invalidate one of the basic values on which culture and civilisation survive – the value of faith. But that is a different matter.

Are you here to repeat the dark past or are you here to establish the Truth. At least we are not going to sell ourselves like you and dance for MDG blindfolded.

Be as it may, I had faith in you because of two reasons: (I) you claim to be a devotee of the Mother and the Master and (ii) the word most sacred to me happens to be the name of your website. All I wished you to realise was it is one of the easiest things for any person lacking humanity, common courtesy, a sense of dignity and respect for his own mother and sisters, to gather gossips and invent lies and post them to you.
You had a responsibility to shift the irrelevant personal sandals from ideological issues and eliminate the former. This responsibility is inherent in the very act of your launching a forum for public consumption. Your site containing the sublime title should not have been exploited by cruel elements out to serve their selfish end. Why must you be a party to attempts at a character-assassination programme? What purpose such attempts serve in achieving any ideal? Should you not ask yourself this fundamental question before lending your outlet to such pathetic attempts? 

Why say in so many words, why we don’t just chant MDG MDG and anybody not doing that is unworthy of any qualification or merit.

But I understand that you did not realise this. What you are doing by publicising mischief, lies and perversion amounts to criminal defamation and libel. If your victims do not take any legal action, it is because they have much greater things to do than those vendors of filth have.

Now here comes the court threat, keep me the king or you will be dragged to court.

It will be presumptuous of me to speak of destiny. But I believe that  today or tomorrow, at some plane physical or otherwise, these vendors are destined to face the consequences of their trade. I am speaking in a general way of the law of Nemesis. Personally I have no interest in their getting their punishment. That is because those who constitute the identity called ‘Prof. Kamal Das’ are not themselves but are playthings in the hands of some evil forces. Such forces can always find new mediums until the day the Divine’s transforming Grace touches them.

The evil force is you. And are you planning destructive ways to attack your opponents. To work through harmony and love is not in your agenda, if that was so you would see how much bad will and wrong use of power is flowing in what your write. Your tunnel authority is valid to those who have surrendered to you, but others have to do Sadhana they don’t have to live on pieces you throw at them and make them believe that you are the Lords. These souls cannot be trapped and become your prey for they know the joy of flying and are not bound like you and now Paulette too is and have no escape. 

Please do not forget that the victims of this vile campaign too are Mother’s children; they are carrying the sacred burden of Her institution, following the principles led down by Her, according to the best of their capacity. They, naturally, cannot stoop down to avenge the mischief-makers applying the same kind of means.

When the tyranny is exposed, it becomes a burden. You are begging in an open forum for the trustees and saying that they are following the principles led down by Her. If there is any truth in this why can’t they solve the issues by talking together in a group with all those with whom they have conflict with.  Alok had suggested this approach.  Would you like to do that? Can they leave their dictatorship home and come and talk to resolve issues instead of spreading bad will and more bad will. You are only a mouth piece with no back bone of your own. Tomorrow if Manoj decides to take action against Peter you will follow. What are you under Manoj, a servant. Do you want to become a divine warrior or is it too late for you now, first surrender to the Divine and protect that as your goal and maybe some Grace may come your way.

A word to the Trustees:-
You can suppress the Ashramites, you can fool the Aurovilians, you can even fool the world. You may even succeed in crushing all those who stand against you by your money power and hired soulless people power. You still will be fighting as others who serve the truth will rise and you still will be living in the same consciousness and rolling in the mud and going after your opponents in spite of being the representative of the Ashram. 

Unless and until you step down from your dictatorship Throne and come and meet with the people with whom you have conflict face to face and take the stand to resolve the issues with understanding, workability and mutual harmony. Everybody accepts love, harmony and peace. Do you have this minimum humility for the sake of the Ashram to leave behind your superiority and terror threatening attitude and come down to a simple hearty talk to handle issues with love and harmony. If you do everybody will benefit and the Divine help will come. The Divine needs certain conditions to enter, it is driven out from spaces where there is this blind ego and arrogance and abuse of power and hatred and this consciousness which is seeking revenge all the time. In such atmosphere it cannot function and withdraws. You have to take the blame for things gone wrong and people dissatisfied all over the world. Take responsibility for your mess and take responsibility to clean it up, by shoving it under the carpet and living engrossed in your petty life does not fulfill the mission of being a Trustee.

Unless you are an evil and enjoy to see people suffering and want them to suffer. Sunil S R

Photographs of her last journey

From overman foundation overmanfoundation@gmail.com to overmanfoundation@yahoo.com date 20 November 2010 12:21 subject From Overman Foundation: Photographs of the Mother's Last Journey
Dear Friends,
On 20 November 1973 at 8. 20 a.m., the Mother’s physical body, which was kept in state since the early hours of 18 November, was put to rest in the Samadhi. The description of the Mother’s last journey from the Meditation Hall to the Samadhi vault, which was published in the November-December (1973) issue of Mother India, the Ashram journal, is as follows:
    
“A casket was made of one-inch-thick rosewood and the inside was lined with a pure silver sheet and over this was a lining of felt and then white silk satin. On the lid of the casket was fixed a symbol of the Mother in pure gold.
     At 8.00 a.m. on the 20th November, the Mother’s body was laid in the casket, which was then covered and sealed hermetically.
     The casket was carried to the Samadhi and lowered into the chamber just above the vault in which Sri Aurobindo’s body had been laid in 1950. Nolini and AndrĂ© scattered some rose petals over the casket and concrete slabs were placed to cover the chamber. There was then a meditation for about ten minutes.
      A running commentary on the event was given by All India Radio. After the meditation, wreaths and bouquets of flowers were laid on the Samadhi by the Government of Pondicherry, the French Consul and others…”
On this occasion we would like to share with all the children of the Mother some photographs of her last journey. To see the photographs, please click on the following link:   
http://overmanfoundation.wordpress.com/2010/11/20/photographs-of-the-mothers-last-journey/
With warm regards, Anurag Banerjee
Chairman, Overman Foundation.

Three refutations of Paulette, the interlocutor

From Paulette paulette@auroville.org.in to "Tusar N. Mohapatra" tusarnmohapatra@gmail.com date 20 November 2010 05:34 subject GENESIS OF “PROF KAMAL DAS” ESQ., AND REASONS FOR HIS MANIFESTATION
Tusar, Kindly post the attachment. Thanks Paulette
GENESIS OF “PROF KAMAL DAS” ESQ. AND REASONS FOR HIS MANIFESTATION

Manoj Das did not want to go public; I also did not want, when I forwarded to Tusar the disgusting letter of “Prof Kamal Das” targeting SAICE (and of course Manoj Das Gupta). But we are living between the power of the 17 and that of the 24 November, everything is exploding. So here is the answer, to those wondering how “Prof Kamal Das” was conceived and born – and why I was the recipient of his four horrendous emails. As somebody in this forum has pointed out, I have managed to stick under the gentleman’s skin.

The court case against the Ashram Trust and the five trustees, following four court cases against Peter Heehs, was born in relationship to the contested biography – originally. But events prove that the book is a pretext; the real matter is assaulting Manoj Das Gupta and the trustees and take over Ashram management, crushing any opposition by all means. From what is emerging, there are compelling reasons for this operation other than those so far foreseen. But contrarily to most instigators or instigated ones, I have read the book and, as other Aurovilians who have done it, I cannot be fooled. I am aware that in spite of its flaws, language or whatever its detractors point out, there are accusations at the border line of insanity, even turning hilarious. In the light of such evidences many in Auroville cannot understand how the court cases are not dropped as “frivolous petitions” and the petitioners are not severely warned and fined, to say the least.
I have written three detailed refutations concerning some of the most appalling accusations. Namely: 1) Tantric sexuality & related matters. 2) Schizoprenia, hereditary insanity etc. 3) Supermind & immortality. I wrote these papers by the same procedure I used to write papers to discuss them as public interactions with the professors, assistants and students of the Faculty of History at Milano (Government) University. Henceforth I listed in my papers the allegations on these themes presented by 1) Sraddhalu Ranade. 2) The Information Handbook. This is an 82 page pamphlet which someone had received from Sraddhalu’s mother, in the office inside the Ashram compound which had been M. Pandit’s. Successively I confronted those accusations with the corresponding quotes (which I had scanned and reproduced in their entirety) from the Heehs biography.
This exercise proved automatically, without any need for comments, that those tragicomic allegations have been fabricated by Holy Inquisitors for the exclusive purpose of witch hunt, heretic’s burning, demonization of the author and canonization of the devil he is. An operation that points ineluctably to the shadow and projection of the shadow, as the Mother calls this engineering machine, and which in Integral Yoga takes the name of evil persona, in Sri Aurobindo’s language. But still I had to discover how deep and far can the phenomenon reach, in his trajectory hitting me directly as well.
I had circulated the three refutations I have mentioned among a restricted number of people. However, I received an email from Alok Pandey (still I don’t know informed by who), complaining; he proposed a discussion where the two of us were free to forward the resulting emails exchange to anyone we felt appropriate to involve. I accepted, my attitude having always been to list evidences and discuss them, dispassionately, appealing to reason. Trusting that, even in the most obstinately perverse, reason can emerge and accomplish the miracle. The (visible) email addresses to whom Alok forwarded his comments were Sraddhalu, Deshpande, Ananda R., Kittu R., Raman R., Govind, and Sandeep (formerly known as Auroman). From the comments I received from some of these people it was clear that others in Alok’s group had read my refutations (which in the meantime I had revised, adding or shifting material), partially or in full.
In accepting the discussion I expressed my concern, of a dual nature. On one side, the peremptory rejection of any court case among inmates, in overt violation of the Mother’s injunctions; this stand, which unites all of us in Auroville, applies even more forcefully when targeted are the Sri Aurobindo Ashram trustees and Trust. My other major concern is the riddle of accusations, against the book and Peter Heehs, so delirious that many people end up laughing. But alas, instead of a rational, meticulous debate, point by point, on well-defined issues, the replies I got were the same old stuff going back and forth for the past two years. Peter Heehs is the greatest evil being in the whole history of creation, the Master is demonically vilified by the traitor etc.; besides legitimizing the court case against Manoj and the trustees by the repertoire all of us know by heart. Starting, sadly, from Alok, who wrote more than half a dozen emails in two days, at least 3956 pages each – and which I diligently read. The outcome was that some prominent Aurovilians, flooded with incessant invectives and jeremiads, refused to read altogether. Confronted with that camp’s usual tactics of beating around the bush, without quoting anything substantial to prove accusations that are groundless, I forwarded them my first refutation, Tantric sexuality & Co. But apart from Sandeep (who lives in the USA), all others went on beating around the bush with their customary repertory, or eschewed replying altogether.
By then it had become unmistakably clear that my wasting so much time, in the sincere attempt to make some of those ‘teachers’ revert to reason, was pure Utopia. Aware that nothing would come out of it, the whole charade was a pretext to bury my arguments, and time was running short, I bypassed refutation no. 2 (schizophrenia, hereditary insanity & Co.); I forwarded instead, directly, refutation no. 3: supermind & immortality. In order to clear Sraddhalu’s astounding assertions, plus those in the Information Handbook equally untenable, an on top ridiculous, I went  on reproducing pages and pages from Peter’s biography – along with quotes from Sri Aurobindo, Nirod, Amal Kiran and, yes, even Pranab (the latter was quoted in Mirror of Tomorrow, but much conveniently obliterated). As with the other two, this confutation settles the matter for good, at every level – but also raises most disquieting questions, for obvious reasons. What kind of “teaching” is this? What “knowledge” is being bestowed?
It is then, and only then, as soon as I forwarded the confutation on supermind/immortality, that “Prof Kamal Das” materialized out of his nether space, hitting me in all his fury; I got the first two emails in one day. As if this were not enough, that very same day I was presented a photocopy of his horrific letter against MDG and SAICE… which had been handed over by Sraddhalu’s mother to a Western stranger, in M. Pandit ex office, inside the Ashram compound. It was October 25. The second hearing was scheduled the next day.
The mystery of Prof’s identity can be solved, among others, in the light of certain details I am aware of, but which right now I don’t feel disclosing. Others are pointing out the same name(s). Paulette

Friday, November 19, 2010

Shift the irrelevant personal sandals from ideological issues

From Manoj Das prof.manojdas@gmail.com to "Tusar N. Mohapatra" tusarnmohapatra@gmail.com date 19 November 2010 11:48
NOTHING PERSONAL? MUST SCANDALS AND LIES BE PATRONISED? PLEASE CHANGE THE NAME OF YOUR SITE.
Dear Mr. Mohapatra, 
 So, you chose to betray my faith in you!
 Your creating a headline ‘There is Nothing Personal about it’ does not invalidate one of the basic values on which culture and civilisation survive – the value of faith. But that is a different matter.
There are personal communications and the person who volunteers to make it has the right to declare it personal. Journalism was not my forte. But at different times editors of three major national English newspapers of India had entrusted me regular columns with full freedom. My views were sometimes not in keeping with their editorial views. Several times I sent personal communications to them in the context of my column. Never did any of them make my personal communication public.
 You are a kind of journalist. Ethics of the vocation should have informed you that since I had volunteered to write to you – you had not asked me for it – you should have given me the choice either to withdraw the letter or to agree to its publication. No conscientious editor can arbitrarily abrogate to himself the right of decision in such a case, even though once sent the letter becomes the receiver’s property.
 Be as it may, I had faith in you because of two reasons: (i) you claim to be a devotee of the Mother and the Master and (ii) the word most sacred to me happens to be the name of your website. All I wished you to realise was it is one of the easiest things for any person lacking humanity, common courtesy, a sense of dignity and respect for his own mother and sisters, to gather gossips and invent lies and post them to you. You had a responsibility to shift the irrelevant personal sandals from ideological issues and eliminate the former. This responsibility is inherent in the very act of your launching a forum for public consumption. Your site containing the sublime title should not have been exploited by cruel elements out to serve their selfish end. Why must you be a party to attempts at a character-assassination programme? What purpose such attempts serve in achieving any ideal? Should you not ask yourself this fundamental question before lending your outlet to such pathetic attempts? 
 But I understand that you did not realise this. What you are doing by publicising
mischief, lies and perversion amounts to criminal defamation and libel. If your victims do not take any legal action, it is because they have much greater things to do than those vendors of filth have. It will be presumptuous of me to speak of destiny. But I believe that  today or tomorrow, at some plane physical or otherwise, these vendors are destined to face the consequences of their trade. I am speaking in a general way of the law of Nemesis. Personally I have no interest in their getting their punishment. That is because those who constitute the identity called ‘Prof. Kamal Das’ are not themselves but are playthings in the hands of some evil forces. Such forces can always find new mediums until the day the Divine’s transforming Grace touches them.
Please do not forget that the victims of this vile campaign too are Mother’s children; they are carrying the sacred burden of Her institution, following the principles led down by Her, according to the best of their capacity. They, naturally, cannot stoop down to avenge the mischief-makers applying the same kind of means.
 May I suggest that you should at least change the name of your website. Such stuff of titillation and sensation belongs to the Era of Death and Darkness, by no means  to Savitri Era, the era of love and truth. You have a duty towards your readers who turned and still turn to your site because of the great name it carries. Their expectation should not be belied. There is a fellow who parodied some lines of the epic Savitri and I called him a hatabhaga – unfortunate chap. You should not at least make a parody of the word by carrying under it the silliest stuff. Please give a thought to my suggestion if you really value that great word which like the sacred syllable Aum, is a Mantra by itself. It is a terrible thing to play with the Mantra.
 I had requested you not to publish my earlier letter. I request you to publish this one.        Thanking you, Manoj Das.

There is much that is murky, obscure and dark in the book

From Govind to tusarnmohapatra@gmail.com date 19 November 2010 10:56 subject Please post 
Hello, If possible, please post the following in response to R.K's message to me on the post "I should not be made any administrative head, let alone bother about the trusteeship". Please do not publish my e-mail address. Thank you.

>>There is no assumption; I am not deriving a conclusion based on a held belief. It's merely a statement, yet to be proven wrong, ON ANY PUBLIC FORA. Your mentors have gotten used to writing for a captive audience. They hate to be questioned, even politely, beyond a certain point. Pushed to challenge THEIR assumptions, they resort to silence, and censoring of posts.

G: A generalization is most often a belief that is based upon a limited set of facts and it has to be discarded when contrary facts are presented, otherwise it becomes a false belief. I have tried to show you that even in this very blog post where you and I are commenting Alok is directly addressing an audience that is not captive in any sense. Also he has expressed his willingness to have a meaningful discussion. Yet your only response is to continue to re-iterate your beliefs mantra-like. This is exactly what I mean when I say that you will not listen to reason. 

>>When and where have your mentors wanted to engage meaningfully? In a Court of Law? ;-) Please tell me!

G: Please read the last line of Alok's letter

>> I hope you understand I don't have to hide behind A.A.D. I am happy with R.K. It is irrelevant if I choose to withhold my full name. 

G: In the same way I hope you understand that it is irrelevant if Alok etc. have chosen not to respond to questions. If you can prove their statements wrong, then so be it. If they feel the need to defend their positions they will engage. If not, you can continue on your own way and they on theirs.

>> I haven't gone about writing letters, distributing pamphlets, filing court cases, ALL ON THE BASIS OF QUESTIONABLE ASSUMPTIONS. But I assure you that if I had, I would have equally had the courage to engage with my detractors. 

G: Again, your definition of courage is a subjective one. As I have already mentioned to you speaking out in the first place requires courage as well. This is axiomatic. Furthermore, as I have already said there are any number of reasons anybody can choose to remain silent. If this basic stuff is not something that you are willing to accept then I can only take it as further confirmation of my assertion that you will not listen to reason

>> I and many others who question the very premise of the view you hold (namely, that the book denigrates Sri Aurobindo and is inherently 'evil') do not believe in character-assassination, but obviously when AP or his friends (Sraddhalu, Prof.Kamal Das(alias)Jayant, RYD etc.) character-assassinate publicly individuals who are loved and respected, some return the favour.

G: That's the problem here. It does not matter what YOU believe. If you print a book about Sri Aurobindo where you mix criticism with praise and negative with the positive then you are overstepping the bounds, then you and I have a problem. I cease to consider you an Ashramite on the basis of your words and actions. The only possibility of unity is to not attack the one single bond that unites us. This too is OBVIOUS. In fact, you seem to understand this very same principle at work in those who have great love and respect for friends like Heehs. This is in fact a great truth you have spoken and I sincerely thank you for it. How much more intense the operation of this same principle in the case of those who love the Master. 

>> But this too is besides the point. Ignore those you consider perverse or irrational. There are still a large number of people politely seeking coherent answers to questions that arise from the letters and views of your mentors. And these have not been answered, not once, even on the very same forums where they have chosen to spread such views.

G; So what? There may be any number of factors preventing them. Perhaps the forums on which they have spread their views are compromised and have been highjacked by folks who are hostile to them and seek only to engage in endless disputes with no issue in sight. If you are referring to the SAICE forum I have read through some of the earlier questions... some of the responses and the uncompromising and unreasoning responses to those responses. Howmuchever we try to deny it fact is there are two belief-systems at play here, one which seeks to cleave to Mother Sri Aurobindo and another which parrots human ideals like freedom, scholarship, reason, but all the time disguises the real motives of personal ideals, personal interests, personal relationships and personal loyalties. I don't think you will be convinced, nor will I, and so the world moves on.

>> Vituperative words? Hostile approach? I have been and continue to be restrained in my language. 

G: Yes, there is restraint, but it is a tad bit too obvious. There IS something straining at the leash. The hostility is there, deny it as much as you want.

>> If you believe that disagreeing with your mentors is automatically being hostile, I have nothing further to say to you. But yes, to accuse me of 'not listening to reason' is utterly laughable.

G: I had expected you to say something like that. It is the characteristic response of those who are able to ignore reason because of their ability to live in denial.

>> Believe me, it's all I want. Reasonable replies, to reasonable questions. And this is not an approach I am willing to change. In the light of the ideals I hold closest to me, I refuse to submit to anyone's perception of truth and right, if it does not correspond to my own sincere way of seeing things. "Better is to follow one's own dharma..." I am willing to accept a world where people see things differently, but can never accept any individual who would FORCE his view of the world, however spiritually valid for himself/herself, on others. Those who endeavour to dictate what others should think, feel, do, especially in these matters so sacred to oneself - without being answerable for their views to anybody - belong more by nature to a religious boot-camp than to this Ashram.

G: At some level I trust your sincerity. But also feel that it has been clouded over by a too powerful mental nature. We are nothing but puppets of organizations, collectives and societies, universal forces and Nature herself. Granted, individual nature has a right to express. However, that does not mean that there are no limits, precautions and boundaries. Freedom when divorced from responsibility becomes a form of bondage for oneself and for others. For example today 70% of the worlds marine fish stock has been depopulated in no time solely because of human FREEDOM. Most of today's most pressing problems can be traced to that very same FREEDOM. It is not as great as it is made out to be. There is always a price to be paid when the lower human nature claims its right to absolute freedom, either in the Ashram or the world at large. If Heehs or the Ashram Administration had comported themselves with some restraint rather than insisting on their own powers and privileges, rights and prerogatives things would not have come to such a point. 

>> Finally, Govind, even in this last letter of yours, after all is said and done, you continue to skirt the issue. As an example of a query that NO ONE has answered up tonow, I find on the Mirror of Day After Tomorrow, a question by Ajit Reddy, addressed to you:
(http://mirrorofdayaftertomorrow.wordpress.com/) “Hi Govind
I do not know if you are aware that in the affidavit submitted by Shraddalu and C0. in their suit against the Ashram trustees they write the following in one of the paras:
“The Lives of Sri Aurobindo, a sacrilegious book portrays Sri Aurobindo as a liar and a mentally imbalanced person, and ridiculing his spiritual encounters and experiences as an outcome of Sri Aurobindo’s tantric sexual indulgence and schizophrenic state of mind.”
Can you show me where in the book does Peter write these? Ajit Reddy (SAICE 1976)”

G: Honestly, I do not know. There is much that is murky, obscure and dark in the book. I have written on much of it but this is not from me. So, I'm afraid I would have to take up with whoever wrote this to examine their reasons for making this statement. Whether or not you will believe me I am not in regular touch with Sraddhalu, Alok or any other person from the Ashram. As a matter of fact in this one single posting I have probably written more to you than all the mails that I have directly sent to both of them together... ever.

>> This is was promptly censured from RY Deshpande's site. Can you give an answer to this question? Short, succinct, understandable, without the baggage of your own personal visions, dreams, psychic intimations. Sraddhalu? Alok Pandey? Raman Reddy?

G: You said it yourself. It is Deshpande-ji's site. What do you expect him to do? Let it run amuck with things he does not want to see in there? You might as well just foist the whole gang of his interrogators on his shoulders and expect him to walk-around cheerfully going about his daily business. Let's not keep turning every little molehill into a mountain. But that is entirely up to you.

>> Come on all of you, prove me wrong.

G: For that you would have to first prove that you exist and I am not so sure of that, R.K./A.A.D/... :-)

The next offer will be that of the bribe and if that does not work, the threat

From Sunil sunilauro@gmail.com to tusarnmohapatra@gmail.com date 19 November 2010 10:29 subject For posting
What Manoj Das has asked Tusar in his personal capacity amounts to asking Tusar to do fraud.  If there is nothing wrong in his demand what is there the need then to keep it away from the public eye. Tusar’s integrity did not allow him to take sides or become another MDG limited. The next offer will be that of the bribe and if that does not work, the threat.
I know MDG and his followers can’t see any fraud in this as the life of corrupted power has narrowed the senses.  This narrowness is licensed and limited only in the hush hush society that you have been busy creating. But the world is progressing while you remain suffocated in your greatness. Self-expression and frankness are necessary to bring forth the truth. It is because of this one sided, arrogant mentality that allows no space to others that there are so many unnecessary cases and you have and are wasting public funds on it instead of changing your ways and opening yourself.
About character assassination we know very well what you have been doing in this forum, personally for me too you have said things that come from a sight which cannot see above the belt and coming from authority for decades people have believed you and looked down upon me and never spoke to me. If there was self expression you would have seen how totally off the mark you are. You refuse to see the truth.  MDG can give public declarations in the school that nobody should talk about Savitri and its changes. But has that solved the problem for you or for the opposition. It is in working together being frank and open that the beginning of all solution comes. Do you want things to get solved or remain cocoon in your dictatorship?
So no demands for hidden requests. Let us breathe a healthier, fresh open air, and Tusar knows what he is doing he need no lesson from anybody. With love Sunil S R

Govind has left a new comment on your post "I should not be made any administrative head, let ...": @ R.K. (or A.A.D. or whoever)
"taking almost everyone along... and above all fulfilling the 'trust' the Mother had placed in them - to administer and look after the Ashram and its inmates; to clothe, feed, nurse, and enable a few thousand people to practice their sadhana in an atmosphere of light and freedom and quiet peace, without external worries or troubles."

What a fawning and thoroughly servile paean of abject thanksgiving. I have yet to read anything so patronizing from any spokesperson of the trustees. This goes back to the same issue with which I started to participate in this thread of comments, the notion of a sense of humbling gratitude towards the trustees. The flip side of the same tax-coin of gratitude is credit-taking or credit-giving. You may like to think that the people whom you are here to attack are my mentors, a baseless conjecture that you never cease to play up. But you yourself use words that are more appropriate in the mouth of a messenger boy of the Ashram authorities. Give credit and gratitude where credit and gratitude are due. "look after the Ashram and its inmates..." From being children of the Divine Mother it looks like folks such as yourself are yearning to bring back the good old times when you could play subjects of kings whom you look up to as your fathers, and who have the sole divine right to rule, on whose laps you securely played and frolicked in security and carefree gaiety.

Clothe, feed, nurse and enabling the practice of sadhana, the ATMOSPHERE of PEACE etc. etc.... all this comes from the Mother. All that your great and mighty patrons have to do is remain open to Her and act as Her instruments, and play their INSIGNIFICANT BIT PARTS as just a few handful among hundreds of other conscious instruments. Whatever is personal to their ego, which does not belong to the Divine, is worthless and perverse. The moment they start taking credit and demanding gratitude, either from their own mouths or through the mouths of others like yourself, then that is the surest sign it is their ego that is expressing itself and demanding credit and gratitude for itself. So please... before you pass judgment on the the courage or the cowardice of other people, first put a stop to your own awe-filled genuflections in front of those who have clothed, fed and nursed you on the milk of personal loyalty. Posted by Govind to Savitri Era Open Forum at 6:19 AM, November 19, 2010

Thursday, November 18, 2010

Every person should get a fair chance to express his/her feelings

R has left a new comment on your post "Nothing personal about it"
Tusar,
Why do you publish what Manoj Das sent to you in a personal capacity?? He explicitly states it is not to be published on your blog. You are really a cheap publicity-seeker Tusar. Posted by R to Savitri Era Open Forum at 10:58 PM, November 18, 2010

From Jitendra Sharma aurofrance@gmail.com to "Tusar N. Mohapatra" tusarnmohapatra@gmail.com date 18 November 2010 22:44 subject Savitri Era Open Forum
Savitri Era Open Forum is the only platform where all devotees of Sri Aurobindo and the Mother can openly discuss whatever they like. Shri Tusar N. Mohaptra sincerely presents different views and perspectives. No doubt, some people’s views may be unpleasant and can hurt others, but every person should get a fair chance to express his/her innermost feelings. Readers should discern what to believe or not to believe, according to their own intelligence. Personally, I learn a lot by reading divergent views of others.              -  Dr. Jitendra Sharma

Nothing personal about it

From Manoj Das prof.manojdas@gmail.com to tusarnmohapatra@gmail.com date 18 November 2010 12:38
Dear Shri Mohapatra,     Namaskar.
    This is a strictly personal communication - not meant for publication in your website. I am sure you will honour my good faith.
    Unfortunately, I do not read any of the websites except for catching a glimpse or two of them once in a while. I hold you in affection because you are a devotee of the Mother and the Master.
    I humbly suggest that your valuable forum should not publicise matters which are clearly defamatory and which amount to character assassination. During last two days more than one friend of mine drew my attention to a couple of items published in your forum which I never expected to be there. One is very clearly an attempt at Shri Manoj Das Gupta's character assassination - enlisting a few names including a dead person. You can imagine the remorseful reaction such things cause to so many human beings whose names are whimsically projected by a certain so called "professor" who simply does not exist.
    Another feature speaks a blatant lie about me - that I was the author of a certain letter written by five noted persons of Orissa to four fellows who have gone to the court against the Ashram Trust. I have nothing to do with this. The authors of that particular letter are sufficiently capable to write that. I even do not know all of them. Simply because they are from Orissa like me this mischievous lie has been floated.
    This is just to appeal to your conscience so that you could withdraw such clearly mischievous and unsubstantiated features from publicity through your website which carries such a sacred name. Needless to say I cannot object to anything that is corroborated by fact. My objection is to personal character assassination and blatant lies.
    Once again I state that this is a personal communication.
    With best wishes and regards,                Manoj Das

Sraddhalu Ranade is known to be the founder of Agni Productions

From Subhas Roy subroyindia@gmail.com to tusarnmohapatra@gmail.com date 18 November 2010 00:50 subject More investigations for Prof. Kamal Das please
Dear Sir, Could you please post this on the SEOF in relation to Prof. Kamal Das' investigations and for the Prof's benefit as well as that of other interested readers of SEOF. Please remove my e-mail address. Thanks SR.

Dear Prof. Kamal Das,
You investigative skills are rather remarkable, considering that you have been able to dig out the details about Sudha Sinha's gate pass from God knows which location in India or the world, unless you changed your mind and finally decided to visit the Puducherry Ashram during darshan, which if I may remind you, you had earlier declined from doing for reasons that you had stated then. Kudos to you!

I have of course still not forgotten how you must have been hiding under Nolini-da's bed to pursue your investigation on confidential and private letters concerning MDG that were allegedly in possession of Nolini-da. That was equally remarkable.

Considering your great acumen for conducting investigations, could you now please help us out with another equally thrilling and interesting investigation concerning one Sraddhalu Ranade, who happens to be one of the brains behind the petition that was filed by Sudha Sinha and her colleagues against the SAAT, which a newcomer like you so strongly supports for reasons still unknown to many of us.

Sraddhalu Ranade, whom someone like you is likely to consider to be a modest, sincere and devoted inmate of the Sri Aurobindo Ashram, is also considered to be some kind of a Guru by those who are not very familiar with the SA Ashram and the manner in which it functions. 

The manner in which Sraddhalu Ranade finds fault with others in his community, is likely to give you the impression that his closet apparently contains no skeletons. However, among his many commercial ventures outside of the Ashram, one stands out. Sraddhalu Ranade is known to be the founder of Agni Productions, a private TV production unit based in north India.

Interestingly, the news article below that is being widely circulated and which I have received, reports that Agni Productions was involved in a multi-crore scam involving corrupt income tax officials known to have deposited large sums of money collected illegally in the account of a "Mother India Fund" which in turn would get "immediately" transfered to the account of Agni Productions.

Wouldn't you find it worthwhile to use your astute investigative skills to find out how much of that money ever found its way to the Ashram of Sri Aurobindo and The Mother - and indirectly for the benefit of other inmates such as (supposedly) Sudha Sinha - which Sraddhalu Ranade supposedly serves in total devotion. We hope to hear from you as promptly as you have done in the past. SR.
Income Tax official’s arrest tip of iceberg 
K.S. Chawla Ludhiana, February 6
According to sources in the Vigilance Department, the vigilance wing got complaints that some officers of the Income Tax Department, Chandigarh, had been forcing businessmen in Ludhiana as well as in northern region to deposit huge sums of money in a private trust called ‘Mother India Fund’. The vigilance wing of the Income Tax Department in Delhi asked the Chief Commissioner, Income Tax Chandigarh, in a letter in October, 2004 to collect facts on the complaints that many businessmen in Ludhiana as well as in the northern region were being harassed by officers for collecting money in the name of a fund called, ‘Mother India Fund’ for which a bank account was opened in the ICICI Bank and people were being asked to deposit cash in order to avoid any enquiry or survey. The vigilance wing had asked the Chief Commissioner, Income Tax, Chandigarh, to get details of the bank account of ‘Mother India Fund’ and all other necessary information related to this fund and the persons operating the account.
When the Vigilance Department received details of the ‘Mother India Fund’ account from Chandigarh, it revealed that almost around Rs 8 crore to Rs 10 crore had been deposited in this account in Ludhiana in a period of about 17 months from June 16, 2003 to November 8, 2004 and as much as Rs 8 lakh to Rs 9 lakh was deposited in cash in some entries. The Assistant Commissioner of Income Tax Department, Saxena, who was arrested at Ludhiana, was known to be the right-hand man of the senior officer based at Chandigarh who was allegedly the real beneficiary and was in a position to twist the arms of businessmen. The lawyer, Shelly, was very close to this officer who was earlier posted at Ludhiana for about seven years.
The investigations into the ‘Mother India Fund’ have revealed that it had its headquarters as mentioned in their cards of the ICICI Bank as F-4/2A, DLF Phase-I, Gurgaon, Haryana. The account was opened in the ICICI Bank, Jandu Towers, Miller Ganj, Ludhiana.
The details of deposits and withdrawls are revealing. In seven months there have been as many as 81 entries of cash deposits, out of which 22 are of the deposits of more than Rs 2.5 lakh each. There is one entry of Rs 9 lakh, two entries of Rs 8 lakh each, 4 entries of Rs 5 lakh each, two entries of Rs 4 lakh each, 13 entries of over Rs 2 lakh each. The remaining entries are mostly of Rs 2 lakh and 1 lakh.
The investigations show that most of the amount has been transferred to the account of Agni Productions of which there are 74 entries and some entries of money transfer are to one auto company. An interesting feature is that as soon as some money is accumulated in the ‘Mother India Fund’, the money is immediately transferred to the Agni Productions account and some other account leaving a few thousand rupees in the account.