Wednesday, November 11, 2009

The Mother and Sri Aurobindo have always remained very much open regarding technology

Copernicus has left a new comment on your post "If one Peter Heehs is pardoned today, a thousand w...": "They would just have smiled at what Mr Peter Heehs has said."

I see. And you would know that. Controlled and thoughtful reactions and counter-reactions are perfectly legitimate. Why should it be considered fanacism. You are just confused and vague in what you say and are seeking a Gandhi style solution.

How do you know that Mother and Sri A dont want a reaction. When Sri A was asked why he needed a doctor to look at his ailment and didn't use yogic force instead to cure himslef, he shot back and asked the person why the doctor couldnt be a force for the divine and be used by the divine accordingly. Posted by Copernicus to Aurora Mirabilis at 2:43 AM, October 19, 2009

prakash has left a new comment on your post "Sri Aurobindo Ashram ought to expel Peter Heehs":

After seeing all these drama, Why Ashram Trustees are not taking any action??? This is quite difficult to undestand ..... Wake up please??? Posted by prakash to Savitri Era Open Forum at 10:38 PM, November 03, 2009

Robert E. Wilkinson has left a new comment on your post "Trustees chose to ignore this issue and the reason...": Stop Scapegoating Peter Heehs

Alok Pandey’s thoughtful article about the Heehs imbroglio brought up a number of important points but his burning questions about HOW and WHY this dispute occurred in the first place remain unanswered. To understand the HOW and WHY behind the Heehs’ controversy, one must be willing to stop the scapegoating and go deeper into the origins of the ignorance and confusion from which this literary heresy came into being.

Since the Mother’s departure in 1973 both Auroville and the Ashram have suffered and continue to experience the eroding effect of incompetent leadership. Instead of forming around a common Soul and a Supramental knowledge, which was the Mother’s avowed intention, Auroville and the Ashram have formed around a Collective Ego. Instead of a true spiritual community guided by Realized Beings, the seat of Sri Aurobindo’s work was taken over by the Indian government and is now run by Philosophers and Politicians who, the Mother warned us, would be the very last to be transformed.

This is the polluted soil from which Heehs' book emerged and the noxious influence that nursed his iconoclastic attitude. The most important causal factor behind the Heehs’ controversy, completely absent from these discussions, and apparently quite unknown to Alok and others, is the existence of and the occult effect of a true collective Center or Soul. In the parlance of the Integral Yoga it is called the ‘Psychic Being’. It is the ordering and unifying principle of any collectivity and if it were truly present in the Auroville and Ashram community, the bitter controversies, legal disputes and polarization of devotees upon racial and other lines would have been a virtual impossibility.

The community of devotees would know this if they had bothered to acquire a direct lived experience of the Yoga and the Vedic ‘Skambha’ instead of the lifeless mental orthodoxy that has been offered in its place. Indeed, one need only look at the ongoing disharmony and chaos in Auroville and the Ashram to know TO A CERTAINTY that there is NO CENTER. William Butler Yeats, himself a realized being, eloquently describes this occult phenomenon in the first lines of his poem ‘The Second Coming’.

‘…Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world. The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.’

You could not find a better description of how Alok Pandey and others have experienced Peter Heehs’ destructive influence but what they fail to realize is that Heehs is not the CAUSE of this ongoing controversy but merely one of the SYMPTOMS of the CENTERLESS condition that exists today in Auroville and the Ashram. To someone who SEES, the situation and its errors have an almost formulaic precision to it producing a mathematical result when something essential is left out of the mix.

It may be compared to G.W.H. Hegel’s famous three part dialectical formula known as Hegel’s law. If you apply the principles of Thesis and Antithesis but reject the Third principle of Synthesis, the formula is fractured, true unity cannot be achieved and an integral understanding becomes impossible… The complete article may be found at: http://the-mountaintop.blogspot.com/2009/11/stop-scapegoating-peter-heehs.html Posted by Robert E. Wilkinson to Savitri Era Open Forum at 7:42 PM, November 02, 2009

from koantum ujmvjm@gmail.com to tusarnmohapatra@gmail.com date 19 January 2009 08:05 subject Savitri Era : Life Divine sans community
koantum has sent you a link to a blog:

Lack of discrimination, Sir. Excommunication from the Sri Aurobindo Ashram (a well-defined existing community), not from the (ill-defined and therefore hardly existent) IY community.

from Tusar N. Mohapatra tusarnmohapatra@gmail.com to koantum ujmvjm@gmail.com date 19 January 2009 15:35 subject Re: Savitri Era : Life Divine sans community

The reductive doctrine that you have introduced implies that the concept of a community is redundant, and hence undesirable, which questions all existing as well as future formations. [TNM]

Sunday, November 08, 2009 Green hot air Update:

The above post has been unilaterally and arbitrarily deleted by R.Y. Deshpande from mirror of tomorrow which I protest. Such fascist instincts are really frightening. [TNM] Posted by Tusar N Mohapatra at 8:46 AM savitri era

BHANUPRATAP has left a new comment on your post "Babaji Maharaj Sri Ramakrishna Das visited Dharamg...": Mr. Mohapatra,

We are verry much gratefull to you for your effort to highlight our centre in PLAIN AND SIMPLE heading. This is the second time our centre has came in PLAIN AND SIMPLE. With all best wishes for your. Managing Trustee, Sri Aurobindo Kendra. Posted by BHANUPRATAP to Plain & Simple at 9:25 PM, November 09, 2009

Tusar N Mohapatra has left a new comment on your post "Babaji Maharaj Sri Ramakrishna Das visited Dharamg...":

You may file short reports on present activities in and around the Kendra. Thanks. [TNM] Posted by Tusar N Mohapatra to Plain & Simple at 7:26 AM, November 10, 2009

Srikant has left a new comment on your post "Man's meddling with nature is a dangerous game": Dear Rakesh-ji,

Mother and Sri Aurobindo have always remained very much open regarding technology. while one student was migrating to U.S. in '60, she said, 'yes learn about plastic technology, my food materials are smelling awfully.' At the same time Parichand-da - the Ashram gardener says She was very particular that the garden should be beautiful at the samed time natural as at the entrance! The whole problem is with man, - till he changes these aberrations will keep on cropping up. Posted by Srikant to Savitri Era Learning Forum at 12:05 AM, November 04, 2009

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Roy Bhaskar’s A Realist Philosophy of Science is a...":

I much prefer the Trickster vision communicated in the work of Timothy Leary, Zippy the Pinhead, and the always weird and wonderful R Crumb. Posted by Anonymous to Feel Philosophy at 4:37 PM, November 11, 2009

from Sarojini Sahoo sarojalin@gmail.com date 26 October 2009 14:24
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Fallacies in a Hindu mind regarding Manu Samhita

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