Wednesday, July 8, 2009

Sri Aurobindo is the farthest from the minds of Heehs supporters

Copernicus has left a new comment on your post "Alok never wanted a court case against Peter": "why don't you write and publish your own book to better inform what you consider to be all those "mislead" readers of Heeh's book? That would be constructive and something to be genuinely proud of rather than mere easy and unreflective criticism."

Would you prescribe that all those who read Heeh's book read mine? Oops, I forgot! I cant say that I am an ashram archivist - now, how many will read my book and believe me?! People with privilege and in positions of responsibility should be careful because they can cause a lot of damage before they can be counteracted!

What would be really constructive is if people such as YOU stopped seeing all matters through the narrow prism of "freedom". And lose the blind and immovable faith in Heehs. Again, as I said earlier and as your post demonstrates, Sri Aurobindo is the farthest from the minds of Heehs supporters. By the way, any scholar will tell you that criticism is not always easy or unreflective. Posted by Copernicus to Savitri Era Open Forum at 11:33 PM, June 23, 2009

Copernicus has left a new comment on your post "Alok never wanted a court case against Peter":

What you miss completely in your obsession with Heehs and his Rights are the points I have made already:

That his book is likely to reach a far wider audience than it might have bcos of the Columbia Univ. press label and the reviews by academics such as Kripal. The US academy (not so much the european ones) is notorious for how it throttles unfashionable views and labels them as non-liberal (and therefore 'uncivilized').

So pl. dont try to brainwash us about how freely anyone can write about anything. That everything is a level playing field is assumed to be a concocted theory of the american conservatives but is clearly also used by their liberal opponents when convenient to them. And of course I was only joking and dont see what credibility you have that will help promote 'my book' if I wrote one!

For some time at least no-one else can refute anything Heehs wrote because of the shield of authority that he has grabbed. Powerful arguments against him have already been made and you shouldn't be as smug as you seem to be that Heehs is intellectually invulnerable. The entire problem is with marketing these refutations and rebuttals and you know that. Maybe that IS the reason why you are so smug and keep repeating ad nauseum about how others too can write a book.

Ever heard of defamation??? You cant defame someone and then say that people who disagreed have only to write a book in response!! Stupid, arrogant solution if I ever heard one.

There clearly appear to be Ashram norms (written and unwritten) and issues of loyalty to the Guru all of which have been undercut by Heehs and his supporters. No institution can and should tolerate it and no US or European institution does - so why are they asking for special privileges in India? Heehs distortions and academic improprieties are being glossed over by people like you in this monominded defense of his rights. And unfortunately they will be overlooked by most of his uninformed readers as well.

And you deliberately continue to ignore the fact that many people might not like to write a book (or a pamphlet or anything else) in responding to Heehs simply because it means dragging Sri Aurobindo into the mud and exacerbating the controversy all over again. It's a dilemma that most of the Americans who are clearly spearheading all of this nonsense will never understand - for them it's only about rights and freedom of speech!

I see your undying support for Heehs but still no expression of any allegiance to Sri Aurobindo. I forgot! You have to be a fundamentalist to do that!

I have my doubts but I still hope you will have the humility to admit some of these. Posted by Copernicus to Savitri Era Open Forum at 11:57 PM, June 24, 2009

Copernicus has left a new comment on your post "Alok never wanted a court case against Peter":

As expected you skirted all the issues once again! I guess you weren't really interested in anything but your own views and your lack of humility could have been foreseen. But One Heehs has mattered a great deal in this case and it will take a while to set things right. If there is any lesson to be learned in this entire issue, it is probably that people like Heehs should never again be trusted in the Ashram's affairs. Fare well. Posted by Copernicus to Savitri Era Open Forum at 10:01 AM, June 27, 2009

Copernicus has left a new comment on your post "Alok never wanted a court case against Peter": "cheap and easy citicism of others"

It is you and your Guru Heehs who have taken the cheap and easy way out to defame SA, gain personal glory and profit at the same time, havent you? Not to mention lying about credentials, stealing other people's data, and taking advantage of the Ashram's liberality and rules. Then crying religious fundamentalism when challenged and expecting people to be pushovers. Didnt work, did it? Yes, I think you are wasting your time with me - it might be better spent on the converted at SCIY! Posted by Copernicus to Savitri Era Open Forum at 3:38 AM, June 28, 2009

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