Saturday, December 23, 2006

Savitri herself is here the incarnate Word

Re: Instruments of Knowledge and Post-Human Destinies
by RY Deshpande on Fri 22 Dec 2006 06:58 AM PST Profile Permanent Link
Vladimir’s posting on Wed 20 Dec 2006 10:36 PM PST: It is about the Word, Brihaspati, the Lord of the Word; Indra, the Lord of Divine Mind; Speech cut it into pieces; grams, the genesis of Grammar; the creation of Time and Space; the separation of Artha and Vak, Sense and Word; the Heaven and the Earth; the idea becoming all-important, the sound secondary.
Kalidasa speaks of Vak and Artha, Word and Sense, being united in the supreme Shakti. Artha is of three kinds: expressed (vāchya), indicated (lakshya), and suggested (vyangya); also that which can be perceived by the senses, an object of sense—and what a wealth of meanings flow from its root! But all this belongs to the later analytical descriptions; we have here the lower speech, vaikhari. It is more fruitful to go by the Vedic connotations.
Very often in the Rig Veda ‘Word’ is equated with ‘Brahma’. For instance: Agni himself is at once Indra and Vishnu, and the Master of the Word, Brahma, the finder of the Riches. (Rig Veda II:1:3); he is the vast and supreme Word, bharata-brihat (III:10:4); gods who fashion the Word, brahmakrita (VII:9:5).
St John is interesting in this respect. “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it. He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God. The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth. We have alienated ourselves from the Word, Logos, Brahma.
In Savitri there is the line: “The Word in Brahma’s vast creating clasp.” And all this in the soul of Savitri!
Savitri herself is here the incarnate Word, the incarnate Scripture, “the breathing Scripture of the Eternal’s joy”. And then there is the “symbolled Om, the great assenting Word”. Word is the dynamic power of the Creator, the power of expression. In the Transcendental Truth and Rhythm, Satyam and Ritam, Gayatri and Savitri, are present together, simultaneously, but in the manifestation Speech and Sense, Vakyartha, are cleaved. The description of knowledge itself becomes flawed. RYD
by Vladimir on Fri 22 Dec 2006 08:03 AM PST Profile Permanent Link
I am glad you brought in this quotation from the Gospel of John, which is the most secret and wonderful text of Christianity, it reflects something of the ancient Chaldean tradition common in many ways with Vedic.
The Word, Logos, Agni, the light in the darkness, has descended from Heaven, sent by the Father to be in the world, it got a flash. He is often called in the Bible the Son of Man, the Son of the Purusha, as it were, the Psychic being; or sometimes he is called “the only Son of God”, meaning that the Psychic being is the only being directly descended from the Father; all other creatures such as typal beings: gods and asuras etc., and all other things and creations do not have that privilege to be a direct offspring of the Father, as it were. It is in this context that we can truly understand all other statements of Christ, for instance: “Only through me you can come to my Father”, or “I and my Father are one”. According to the mystic doctrine of Christianity Christ lives in the heart of every man, it is through that presence in the heart that one can realise the Supreme. (Cp. to the Krishna’s statement: “now everyone will find me, the Supreme, in his heart”).
alan kazlev Says: December 24th, 2006 at 3:31 pm Hi Tusar, I enjoyed Vladimir’s hemeneutic interpretation of Christianity. Intereistingly, I independently came to the opinion of seeing Christ as the metaphor for the Psychic Being.

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